1 00:00:05,530 --> 00:00:02,300 plus the economic Heidi Hollis we've got 2 00:00:09,730 --> 00:00:05,540 a good guest on tonight Judith Baker 3 00:00:13,129 --> 00:00:09,740 dealing with the JFK assassination and I 4 00:00:15,169 --> 00:00:13,139 want to mention about Karen's book it's 5 00:00:17,779 --> 00:00:15,179 come out it's the amazing afterlife of 6 00:00:20,570 --> 00:00:17,789 animals and I just wanted to people 7 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:20,580 might do a Amazon search for it by Karen 8 00:00:27,470 --> 00:00:24,240 Anderson and I've got it I got a copy 9 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:27,480 I'll send you one but it's a it's just 10 00:00:37,340 --> 00:00:32,399 really a darn good book and it's a crazy 11 00:00:39,410 --> 00:00:37,350 mad nuts for animals before you read 12 00:00:43,990 --> 00:00:39,420 mine I sent you a long time ago look at 13 00:00:47,389 --> 00:00:44,000 that oh here's a while back ah but but 14 00:00:49,639 --> 00:00:47,399 but anyhow here's the thing about it did 15 00:00:51,049 --> 00:00:49,649 I I did tell you on the phone I didn't 16 00:00:53,060 --> 00:00:51,059 tell you all the details but I was 17 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:53,070 making kissing sounds in the Walmart 18 00:00:59,779 --> 00:00:55,129 parking lot where I feed the birds and 19 00:01:02,959 --> 00:00:59,789 this pigeon comes right up to me I mean 20 00:01:05,149 --> 00:01:02,969 I mean it's kind of like something very 21 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:05,159 unusual I mean it wasn't you know I know 22 00:01:09,230 --> 00:01:07,350 Mike Rowe comes up to me or used to when 23 00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:09,240 he was around but the pigeon was 24 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:13,110 something totally different yeah and I 25 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:14,310 didn't have the relationship with the 26 00:01:19,609 --> 00:01:18,330 pigeon I had with the crow because the 27 00:01:21,469 --> 00:01:19,619 curl was kind of like to the crows 28 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:21,479 colleague Mike Rowe but Avery did you 29 00:01:29,149 --> 00:01:23,729 know no I'm not saintly and as you might 30 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:29,159 have observed by now but there was a st. 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Kevin wild birds would fly lay on his 32 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:36,930 armor you know roost on his arm I never 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:39,180 heard of such a dance well I know 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:40,770 certain people go out in the park and 35 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:44,250 you know the wildlife gets used to them 36 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:46,290 and they tend to crowd around them men 37 00:01:52,130 --> 00:01:49,110 may land on him so maybe that was one of 38 00:01:54,580 --> 00:01:52,140 those types of birds it had by then it 39 00:01:57,620 --> 00:01:54,590 might have been as cute though that's uh 40 00:02:00,620 --> 00:01:57,630 it was it was now a world renowned 41 00:02:05,350 --> 00:02:00,630 journalist and uh by this ain't no easy 42 00:02:08,419 --> 00:02:05,360 name Cara wanna gal is like Galicia 43 00:02:11,559 --> 00:02:08,429 she's she's were now didn't know that's 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:11,569 bad name she's for a Maltese woman and 45 00:02:19,050 --> 00:02:13,810 she's a big-time journalist 46 00:02:22,170 --> 00:02:19,060 in Europe and she was killed by a car 47 00:02:24,690 --> 00:02:22,180 bomb this past week and she was 48 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:24,700 responsible for leaking the Panama 49 00:02:31,170 --> 00:02:26,650 papers she exposed high-level corruption 50 00:02:33,780 --> 00:02:31,180 in the world and she also exposed to 51 00:02:38,850 --> 00:02:33,790 elements of the Clinton corruption and 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:38,860 via the Clinton Foundation so a lot of 53 00:02:47,490 --> 00:02:40,890 people wanted her dead in other words oh 54 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:47,500 man I guess they did but two years ago I 55 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:50,380 mean this goes back Oh golly Heidi this 56 00:02:58,979 --> 00:02:54,930 goes back probably seventeen years ago I 57 00:03:01,500 --> 00:02:58,989 was maybe 18 I had a sale I used to sell 58 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:01,510 promotional products on the side and I 59 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:05,049 had a customer and he says I listen let 60 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:07,630 me go show you guys this and he had a 61 00:03:11,970 --> 00:03:10,480 list of people that were uncommon weird 62 00:03:14,490 --> 00:03:11,980 deaths that were connected with the 63 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:14,500 Clinton administration I mean guys like 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:19,690 Heidi like 40 year old bodyguards and 65 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:22,570 military attache czar in the you know 66 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:25,209 you know fit you know fitness peak of 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:27,040 their life and all this stuff not people 68 00:03:31,860 --> 00:03:29,970 would have bizarre heart attacks or 69 00:03:35,370 --> 00:03:31,870 slip-and-falls I'm here talking guys 70 00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:35,380 that go through doors anyway and it 71 00:03:40,289 --> 00:03:37,660 wasn't just a couple I he this was like 72 00:03:41,460 --> 00:03:40,299 and see I had I had never I really 73 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:41,470 wasn't that interested in politics 74 00:03:47,490 --> 00:03:42,730 during that year and he kind of like 75 00:03:49,590 --> 00:03:47,500 Clinton in my own way you know and what 76 00:03:51,390 --> 00:03:49,600 happened was he showed me this list and 77 00:03:54,809 --> 00:03:51,400 I thought oh my god this is not 78 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:54,819 coincidence I mean we're talking 25 to 79 00:03:59,970 --> 00:03:57,370 30 very uncommon prime of their life 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:03:59,980 kind of guys with questionable deaths 81 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:02,410 and I guess this might be one of the 82 00:04:08,910 --> 00:04:04,329 long body count the Clintons have always 83 00:04:11,430 --> 00:04:08,920 been reputed to have there's a trail of 84 00:04:13,530 --> 00:04:11,440 bodies behind them I mean what 85 00:04:16,170 --> 00:04:13,540 politician doesn't have one behind him 86 00:04:19,979 --> 00:04:16,180 oh I'm not saying they're unique because 87 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:19,989 it was rumored that LBJ did two in his 88 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:23,530 day there was people connected with LBJ 89 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:27,130 that supposedly get the corner 90 00:04:31,860 --> 00:04:30,280 Texas rule did a suicide and yet the guy 91 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:31,870 was shot in the back of the head with a 92 00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:34,570 rifle how in the heck what kind of 93 00:04:42,540 --> 00:04:39,550 contortionist could do that but yeah 94 00:04:45,390 --> 00:04:42,550 that's it's kind of odd and the if you 95 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:45,400 remember correctly about a year ago 96 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:47,380 there was a couple witnesses that were 97 00:04:51,930 --> 00:04:49,120 gonna give testimony against Hillary and 98 00:04:53,910 --> 00:04:51,940 they one of them was a young guy say 30 99 00:04:56,370 --> 00:04:53,920 odd years old and he was found dead on 100 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:56,380 the streets of New York and it wasn't 101 00:04:59,310 --> 00:04:57,850 even a robbery they said it was a 102 00:05:00,600 --> 00:04:59,320 robbery but they didn't steal as well 103 00:05:03,030 --> 00:05:00,610 and they didn't steal his expensive 104 00:05:07,770 --> 00:05:03,040 watch that doesn't sound like they're 105 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:07,780 very successful beeps no so any rate 106 00:05:11,580 --> 00:05:09,610 this this is just another way and as a 107 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:11,590 finality that number John legato that 108 00:05:16,430 --> 00:05:13,690 retired FBI guy we had on he said it's 109 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:16,440 nothing but a criminal enterprise man 110 00:05:22,980 --> 00:05:20,430 really oh yeah I believe it it's crazy 111 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:22,990 now here's one thing that you might like 112 00:05:28,770 --> 00:05:25,410 because you love animals too I'm sure 113 00:05:29,850 --> 00:05:28,780 there's a biker group there good plate 114 00:05:34,530 --> 00:05:29,860 I'm just kidding 115 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:34,540 oh you got plates okay but but now 116 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:36,970 there's a biker gang called Rescue Inc 117 00:05:42,540 --> 00:05:39,790 and what they do is they confront 118 00:05:44,970 --> 00:05:42,550 dogfighting rings beat the hell out of 119 00:05:49,410 --> 00:05:44,980 the dog fighters confiscate the animals 120 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:49,420 and you know they investigate stolen 121 00:05:54,210 --> 00:05:51,160 animal claims all the things related to 122 00:05:59,640 --> 00:05:57,360 it's called rescue Inc and that's very 123 00:06:00,150 --> 00:05:59,650 cool sound like people right after my 124 00:06:04,050 --> 00:06:00,160 own heart 125 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:04,060 really yeah but I don't know I just 126 00:06:09,330 --> 00:06:05,530 thought I'd throw that in since we had 127 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:09,340 an animal theme tonight but Sutherland 128 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:11,170 Springs Texas course the shooting the 129 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:13,300 guy that went wacko and shot all those 130 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:15,760 poor slobs in the church it had nothing 131 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:18,250 to do with his in-laws I can't bad Heidi 132 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:21,490 I can't figure out yeah cuz weren't 133 00:06:27,930 --> 00:06:23,170 there it's like you think you would have 134 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:27,940 known that no they weren't and of course 135 00:06:32,970 --> 00:06:30,370 he'd know that right away hi they said 136 00:06:34,110 --> 00:06:32,980 on CBS tonight that he targeted babies 137 00:06:37,140 --> 00:06:34,120 and their mothers 138 00:06:39,620 --> 00:06:37,150 that was sick yeah I did hear that it's 139 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:39,630 horrible not what what kind of fun 140 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:41,310 would do that I mean I could see if you 141 00:06:46,460 --> 00:06:43,530 have fight with your wife or some such 142 00:06:49,130 --> 00:06:46,470 thing but to go in and lowdown babies an 143 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:49,140 old someone person was 78 years old I 144 00:06:53,330 --> 00:06:50,730 mean people that wouldn't know this guy 145 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:53,340 for the man in the moon and they want to 146 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:56,010 make it a mental health issue when it's 147 00:07:04,340 --> 00:06:58,970 just I don't think so III think that 148 00:07:09,410 --> 00:07:04,350 it's - though I mean it's like just it's 149 00:07:11,570 --> 00:07:09,420 like it's that kind of a gun and I even 150 00:07:12,980 --> 00:07:11,580 I've said that before I even I've said 151 00:07:17,180 --> 00:07:12,990 that I mean come on you don't need an 152 00:07:20,510 --> 00:07:17,190 ak-47 or I mean if you had like a Glock 153 00:07:21,860 --> 00:07:20,520 ten shot nine-millimeter it would be 154 00:07:24,260 --> 00:07:21,870 good for protection but it's not gonna 155 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:24,270 take out a crowd you know I saw a joke 156 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:27,210 today that it's it said America the land 157 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:30,210 of gun care and health control you know 158 00:07:37,300 --> 00:07:33,000 we don't have health care but we have 159 00:07:40,820 --> 00:07:37,310 gun I mean it's crazy it's just crazy 160 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:40,830 like that bozo up in Vegas I mean 161 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:43,050 wouldn't it be a red flag that this guy 162 00:07:47,690 --> 00:07:44,730 is buying enough ammunition to take out 163 00:07:50,660 --> 00:07:47,700 a battalion of Marines yeah 164 00:07:54,530 --> 00:07:50,670 crazy it's like now what is he going 165 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:54,540 hunting a neighborhood I mean what do 166 00:07:59,690 --> 00:07:56,850 you do that for as much as this goal 167 00:08:03,170 --> 00:07:59,700 Texas unloaded - I mean what they said 168 00:08:06,260 --> 00:08:03,180 hundred thirty rounds good no I think he 169 00:08:07,610 --> 00:08:06,270 had a total of five hundred rounds no he 170 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:07,620 may not have shot them all off but he 171 00:08:13,070 --> 00:08:11,010 had 500 crazy you know it would sound to 172 00:08:14,570 --> 00:08:13,080 me not you know like I say I'm for 173 00:08:16,370 --> 00:08:14,580 people having guns for self-protection 174 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:16,380 but I mean you got to be reasonable but 175 00:08:22,580 --> 00:08:19,050 this like I say a 9-millimeter Glock 176 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:22,590 okay okay but you don't need an ar-15 no 177 00:08:27,260 --> 00:08:25,140 there's no reason for that I don't think 178 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:27,270 America will ever be rid of their guns I 179 00:08:30,620 --> 00:08:29,010 don't I don't think it's necessary to 180 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:30,630 like make everybody turn in their guns 181 00:08:35,330 --> 00:08:32,910 but good lord we don't need machine guns 182 00:08:38,930 --> 00:08:35,340 and we don't need a k40 I mean we just 183 00:08:41,150 --> 00:08:38,940 don't it and it's just you know I just 184 00:08:43,070 --> 00:08:41,160 don't mean it there's nothing that will 185 00:08:45,020 --> 00:08:43,080 make me ever feel different that we 186 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:45,030 don't need to know I'm with you on that 187 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:47,130 I really am I mean logic has to apply 188 00:08:51,710 --> 00:08:48,810 and yeah 189 00:08:53,210 --> 00:08:51,720 Burnley to me raise a red flag that like 190 00:08:56,119 --> 00:08:53,220 that yokel up in Vegas 191 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:56,129 my goodness 500 rhymes ammunition or no 192 00:08:59,300 --> 00:08:57,689 he had thousands of rounds what am I 193 00:09:01,429 --> 00:08:59,310 saying that would have to call it like 194 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:01,439 but now hopefully our the connection 195 00:09:06,199 --> 00:09:04,800 with Judith Baker will be okay and we're 196 00:09:07,999 --> 00:09:06,209 just about writing to the top of the 197 00:09:10,639 --> 00:09:08,009 hour that having a little difficulty 198 00:09:13,069 --> 00:09:10,649 with it but we'll keep our fingers 199 00:09:15,129 --> 00:09:13,079 crossed and we'll be right back we'll be 200 00:09:17,540 --> 00:09:15,139 right back 201 00:09:19,069 --> 00:09:17,550 plus could be back with Heidi and Judith 202 00:09:21,340 --> 00:09:19,079 Baker's aunt will be on with us shortly 203 00:09:25,069 --> 00:09:21,350 we're having a few technical glitches 204 00:09:27,439 --> 00:09:25,079 she's traveling a little bit and it's 205 00:09:29,629 --> 00:09:27,449 not as handy as it would be and familiar 206 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:29,639 surroundings yeah but she'll be with us 207 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:32,490 in a second I guess how do you be happy 208 00:09:43,489 --> 00:09:36,180 you'd be happy to know yeah that it's 209 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:43,499 finally cooled off in this hellhole 990 210 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:47,040 last week yes but but no it's actually 211 00:09:55,939 --> 00:09:52,290 gonna be down to 48 tomorrow come on 212 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:55,949 what happened well I don't know this 213 00:09:58,999 --> 00:09:57,569 whole by the way for whatever that is 214 00:10:01,189 --> 00:09:59,009 about global warming and all that I 215 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:01,199 don't know why it's happening though it 216 00:10:06,170 --> 00:10:04,050 obviously has but this was the hottest 217 00:10:09,139 --> 00:10:06,180 year on record and the dallas-fort Worth 218 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:09,149 area and 118 years of record-keeping it 219 00:10:14,299 --> 00:10:12,000 has been to this point hmm Wow 220 00:10:16,900 --> 00:10:14,309 sounds like that's a pattern across the 221 00:10:21,799 --> 00:10:16,910 country breaking records but of course 222 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:21,809 warming is global global climate change 223 00:10:26,689 --> 00:10:25,110 is not a reality to those in power yes 224 00:10:29,809 --> 00:10:26,699 but there's one thing I mean I'm not 225 00:10:34,850 --> 00:10:29,819 trying to no wait by agreeing but what 226 00:10:36,860 --> 00:10:34,860 I'm saying is that some scientists have 227 00:10:38,780 --> 00:10:36,870 said it the whole solar system has 228 00:10:40,460 --> 00:10:38,790 warmed up which of course wouldn't 229 00:10:42,829 --> 00:10:40,470 having to the industrial pollution you 230 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:42,839 know yeah I mean so I mean they're 231 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:44,850 seeing higher temperatures on Venus and 232 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:47,730 Mars and so forth so I mean I don't know 233 00:10:52,939 --> 00:10:50,370 but now one thing I can't I can say I 234 00:10:55,340 --> 00:10:52,949 know this sounds prejudiced but my home 235 00:11:00,889 --> 00:10:55,350 sweet home is gonna be down to four 236 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:00,899 degrees Friday so are four and it's 237 00:11:06,770 --> 00:11:02,250 gonna snow three or four times 238 00:11:10,460 --> 00:11:06,780 the next 10 days wow that's uh that's 239 00:11:12,170 --> 00:11:10,470 crazy I don't look for it just now yeah 240 00:11:16,930 --> 00:11:12,180 but I mean that's at least some place 241 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:20,270 I'm just yeah you know I wanted to 242 00:11:26,270 --> 00:11:23,310 mention something that we were talking 243 00:11:28,070 --> 00:11:26,280 about before the break and and somebody 244 00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:28,080 had made a pointed this on social media 245 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:30,240 and and I'm like you know they're so 246 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:33,570 right yeah one guy puts a bomb in his 247 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:37,260 shoe and forever across the country we 248 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:40,370 all have to take off our freaking shoes 249 00:11:46,820 --> 00:11:44,490 you know since that one incident now 250 00:11:49,970 --> 00:11:46,830 company how many people have gotten 251 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:49,980 ahold of these ak-47s and whatnot 252 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:54,090 and over and over again and we're not 253 00:11:59,300 --> 00:11:56,570 being made to do anything different so 254 00:12:02,300 --> 00:11:59,310 essentially America saying it's okay to 255 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:02,310 shoot babies as it's what the person had 256 00:12:07,010 --> 00:12:05,370 said it's like okay it almost feels that 257 00:12:09,530 --> 00:12:07,020 way because it's like okay we want we 258 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:09,540 want to control shoes but we don't want 259 00:12:14,270 --> 00:12:12,480 to control it that's there's no rhyme or 260 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:14,280 reason to it Heidi the people at the 261 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:16,710 airport I you know I you know I get into 262 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:18,930 battles with him all the time and I did 263 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:21,330 oh wait almost got to fistfight this 264 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:24,690 last time no boy I mean I was gonna deck 265 00:12:27,890 --> 00:12:25,890 you and then I'd have hit a federal 266 00:12:31,970 --> 00:12:27,900 officer and I'll yeah I'd be in jail you 267 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:31,980 never could do the show but but it can't 268 00:12:36,110 --> 00:12:34,110 it came to just about that but what I'm 269 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:36,120 saying is the year before that was the 270 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:38,850 same way I told that one yokel you 271 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:40,320 couldn't find an Arab terrorist if he 272 00:12:44,630 --> 00:12:42,690 was stick it at your shirt pocket damn 273 00:12:47,270 --> 00:12:44,640 and curse that pissed him off but I 274 00:12:49,370 --> 00:12:47,280 wanted to piss him off but I mean what 275 00:12:52,010 --> 00:12:49,380 I'm saying is come on now or you got a 276 00:12:57,010 --> 00:12:52,020 guy that's obviously been here his whole 277 00:12:58,700 --> 00:12:57,020 life and the you know all this bit and 278 00:13:01,160 --> 00:12:58,710 you know it's just 279 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:01,170 Mandi I see grandmother's he's 80 year 280 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:02,670 old grandmothers they're frisking them 281 00:13:08,210 --> 00:13:05,850 down like like their 20 year old Arab 282 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:08,220 terrorists or something right old granny 283 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:10,050 from Des Moines Iowa I mean it's not 284 00:13:15,870 --> 00:13:12,770 much of the threat right yeah 285 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:15,880 I felt like Osama's baby sister when 286 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:19,250 things really were heated I mean my god 287 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:22,010 and one Airport I would stop three times 288 00:13:28,389 --> 00:13:25,190 I'm like give me a break 289 00:13:30,220 --> 00:13:28,399 I said I was just checked here I'm check 290 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:30,230 to go on the floor I mean it was just 291 00:13:36,070 --> 00:13:33,770 ridiculous I'm like pulling out my all 292 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:36,080 my stuff out of my suitcase my carry-on 293 00:13:41,079 --> 00:13:38,930 I'm like I was like I was just enough it 294 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:41,089 was just nothing well I think what it is 295 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:42,770 and I could be wrong but I think what it 296 00:13:47,889 --> 00:13:45,290 is they have to do like extra special 297 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:47,899 efforts so many times an hour or 298 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:50,330 something like you know check their 299 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:54,880 dad's feet or something or something 300 00:14:01,000 --> 00:13:58,010 yeah but I've gone the other way with it 301 00:14:02,590 --> 00:14:01,010 is not about two three years ago I went 302 00:14:05,949 --> 00:14:02,600 to Vegas and I said come here mr. cook I 303 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:05,959 don't want to help I do and but it was 304 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:07,310 on the other side of it they say you 305 00:14:10,420 --> 00:14:09,649 don't have to go through all this you 306 00:14:11,740 --> 00:14:10,430 know you don't have to go through 307 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:11,750 security we'll just take you through and 308 00:14:17,769 --> 00:14:13,250 they did they had a girl just take me 309 00:14:19,870 --> 00:14:17,779 through how come y'all doing this annex 310 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:19,880 oh no we just selected you that's right 311 00:14:23,889 --> 00:14:21,290 but that that's not true they had a 312 00:14:28,030 --> 00:14:23,899 reason but right I don't know why Oh 313 00:14:30,579 --> 00:14:28,040 what that time when I got stopped four 314 00:14:34,389 --> 00:14:30,589 times and I I had to ask the last one I 315 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:34,399 said what caused you to pick me out of 316 00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:36,770 this whole line of people like that they 317 00:14:40,810 --> 00:14:39,140 said well you're travelling alone and 318 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:40,820 you bought your ticket at the last 319 00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:43,490 minute I said you could tell all of that 320 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:45,920 from across the room cuz I saw you point 321 00:14:50,860 --> 00:14:48,649 at me from across the room and Caleb 322 00:14:53,470 --> 00:14:50,870 everybody buy stuff at the last time in 323 00:14:55,780 --> 00:14:53,480 it all playing you did not know that by 324 00:14:58,540 --> 00:14:55,790 looking at me come on now right right 325 00:15:01,810 --> 00:14:58,550 crazy crazy well people buy stuff at the 326 00:15:03,819 --> 00:15:01,820 last minute all the time that's yeah but 327 00:15:06,190 --> 00:15:03,829 they didn't know that by just glancing 328 00:15:08,740 --> 00:15:06,200 at me I mean they know what I was there 329 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:08,750 with this is crazy I just couldn't 330 00:15:12,490 --> 00:15:10,880 believe it I was so dead I wanted on the 331 00:15:14,769 --> 00:15:12,500 positive side of it because I'm not a 332 00:15:17,170 --> 00:15:14,779 government official or anything you know 333 00:15:18,430 --> 00:15:17,180 on I do know some people in the 334 00:15:23,290 --> 00:15:18,440 government but they're not gonna help me 335 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:23,300 with the airport and but I'm just saying 336 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:25,490 it was I mean this was like for like 337 00:15:28,340 --> 00:15:26,490 Unix 338 00:15:29,660 --> 00:15:28,350 a billionaire to be treated on the 339 00:15:32,210 --> 00:15:29,670 outcome that come on mr. cook you'd have 340 00:15:34,070 --> 00:15:32,220 to go do that come to see and I think 341 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:34,080 he's got me mistaken for another mr. 342 00:15:39,769 --> 00:15:37,770 cook speaking of billionaires over here 343 00:15:41,540 --> 00:15:39,779 in Illinois where it looks like we're 344 00:15:44,380 --> 00:15:41,550 gonna get rid of our Republican 345 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:44,390 billionaire governor for another 346 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:55,110 billionaire be really involved in the 347 00:16:00,829 --> 00:15:57,810 community and gives bear hugs to people 348 00:16:03,410 --> 00:16:00,839 and just like oh we gotta fuzzy wuzzy 349 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:03,420 billionaire coming in so I hope he wins 350 00:16:10,220 --> 00:16:07,110 anyways so I guess you know I guess so 351 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:10,230 Oh I mean our last governor didn't want 352 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:12,810 to pay for lottery winners and I like 353 00:16:16,370 --> 00:16:14,550 the guy had had it closed down because 354 00:16:18,170 --> 00:16:16,380 he didn't want to pay his bills so I 355 00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:18,180 couldn't pay my bills because the 356 00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:21,240 Medicaid payments were apparently too 357 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:27,300 much for them to handle so all the time 358 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:31,110 they got ruckus all the time oh that's 359 00:16:36,980 --> 00:16:34,410 this is just the Illinoisan way why is 360 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:36,990 it and all these other facets there's no 361 00:16:41,810 --> 00:16:39,810 unusual because you're mafia boys used 362 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:41,820 to run this place and they kind of grew 363 00:16:46,699 --> 00:16:44,940 up learning that way I think yeah but 364 00:16:48,199 --> 00:16:46,709 now wait a minute now New York has run 365 00:16:50,449 --> 00:16:48,209 pretty good and the mobs had a heavy 366 00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:50,459 input of math you can't be too hard on 367 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:53,279 them well something's crooked though 368 00:16:56,660 --> 00:16:54,899 going on over here I don't know what it 369 00:16:58,730 --> 00:16:56,670 is but you know what I think that 370 00:17:01,519 --> 00:16:58,740 there's a bigger sense of community in 371 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:01,529 New York versus Chicago we have our 372 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:05,610 separate neighborhoods and then New York 373 00:17:11,449 --> 00:17:08,370 has their yeah they're like family so we 374 00:17:12,890 --> 00:17:11,459 got Judith yay yeah dude if it's good to 375 00:17:16,329 --> 00:17:12,900 have you I'm sorry it's been a little 376 00:17:18,439 --> 00:17:16,339 difficult tonight all right 377 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:18,449 interrupting phone calls it's not all 378 00:17:21,220 --> 00:17:19,260 hit nobody 379 00:17:23,780 --> 00:17:21,230 producers fault or anything like that oh 380 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:23,790 no well he's the boss anyway we can't 381 00:17:39,780 --> 00:17:37,040 thank you yeah let me give a little 382 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:39,790 preface Judith Judith 383 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:41,290 maker has degrees in medical and 384 00:17:45,770 --> 00:17:43,120 cultural anthropology English and 385 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:45,780 communication she's an author artist 386 00:17:51,330 --> 00:17:48,610 futurist and a former cancer researcher 387 00:17:54,750 --> 00:17:51,340 and she wrote me and Lee how I came to 388 00:18:01,470 --> 00:17:54,760 know love and lose Lee Harvey Oswald and 389 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:01,480 also David Ferrie dot mafia pilot power 390 00:18:06,780 --> 00:18:05,170 yes I suppose but but but Judith it's 391 00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:06,790 awful good to have you back and I guess 392 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:08,740 it's very timely considering the release 393 00:18:16,140 --> 00:18:13,120 of the JFK suppose it information it has 394 00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:16,150 been hectic because a number of things I 395 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:18,160 wrote about me and Lee now the book is 396 00:18:22,590 --> 00:18:20,290 all in everybody's interest again 397 00:18:24,750 --> 00:18:22,600 because if some of these things are 398 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:24,760 verified that before I have no evidence 399 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:27,010 you know now they've come out so it's 400 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:29,530 been exciting really for me well I'm 401 00:18:32,130 --> 00:18:31,120 glad out of that I'm glad of that and of 402 00:18:36,330 --> 00:18:32,140 course I couldn't mention your 403 00:18:38,060 --> 00:18:36,340 co-authors ed Schwartz and I you know as 404 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:38,070 I might have mentioned one other time 405 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:41,380 past interview we had a this was kind of 406 00:18:44,970 --> 00:18:43,450 a seminal thing for me when I was a kid 407 00:18:46,530 --> 00:18:44,980 and I was hearing all this stuff in the 408 00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:46,540 late sixties about the JFK assassination 409 00:18:52,050 --> 00:18:49,360 because I you know I guess I read mark 410 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:52,060 lanes book and NBC to its credit back 411 00:19:01,320 --> 00:18:56,080 then try to reconstruct the Dealey Plaza 412 00:19:04,590 --> 00:19:01,330 scene with two expert Marine snipers not 413 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:04,600 just an average one like Oswald was but 414 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:06,790 I mean real top of the line snipers and 415 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:09,610 they couldn't duplicate the shot they 416 00:19:16,350 --> 00:19:15,670 just didn't do it wonder why when in 417 00:19:18,930 --> 00:19:16,360 Dallas 418 00:19:20,780 --> 00:19:18,940 literally over in New Orleans they had a 419 00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:20,790 bargain bin there filled with the 420 00:19:25,380 --> 00:19:23,460 mannlicher-carcano he could get for $10 421 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:25,390 anyone would go in through a mail order 422 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:27,970 on a rifle you could find around the 423 00:19:34,410 --> 00:19:30,480 corner it just shows how they framed him 424 00:19:35,940 --> 00:19:34,420 well if you're gonna shoot somebody pick 425 00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:35,950 a better rifle I guess I mean that's 426 00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:38,440 those kind of yeah even the magazine 427 00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:39,790 where he's supposed to have ordered 428 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:41,590 right next to her they're fine rifles it 429 00:19:48,330 --> 00:19:43,930 would have done the job the humanitarian 430 00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:48,340 rifle yeah yeah I know that the this 431 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:50,950 thing is not I guess what it what it did 432 00:19:56,010 --> 00:19:53,140 and of course everybody is always the 433 00:20:02,610 --> 00:19:56,020 a rational mind has always questioned 434 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:02,620 the the analysis of its and I mean it 435 00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:04,450 made me realize that everything's 436 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:09,070 crooked for an early start and I get if 437 00:20:14,490 --> 00:20:10,810 that was right what do you think about 438 00:20:17,790 --> 00:20:14,500 it Heidi overall well you know I had the 439 00:20:20,670 --> 00:20:17,800 pleasure of chatting with Judith and Jim 440 00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:20,680 Marrs a little while back 441 00:20:27,330 --> 00:20:23,320 yeah and just absolutely mind-blowing 442 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:27,340 her old story or everything and and you 443 00:20:32,250 --> 00:20:29,650 know one thing that I think was really 444 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:32,260 amazing that's really off topic Judith 445 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:34,650 is your background as a cancer 446 00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:37,510 researcher having gotten close to the 447 00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:39,760 cure way back when and only to be 448 00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:44,710 blocked and pigeon-holed oh yes in fact 449 00:20:50,370 --> 00:20:46,480 I can't even get my own birth 450 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:50,380 certificate to this day really yeah 451 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:52,510 they've removed my name from well for 452 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:54,550 example I do have the check stubs 453 00:20:59,370 --> 00:20:57,280 showing that I worked and right after 454 00:21:01,530 --> 00:20:59,380 they made me leave New Orleans they had 455 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:01,540 a problem because newspaper reporters 456 00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:03,970 were following me around and they knew 457 00:21:08,010 --> 00:21:05,590 if I wasn't doing cancer research 458 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:08,020 anymore because I'd been kicked out for 459 00:21:12,300 --> 00:21:10,330 you know objecting to using poor 460 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:12,310 prisoners who were volunteering for 461 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:14,080 cancer research and if it worked it 462 00:21:18,300 --> 00:21:15,370 would kill them and they didn't tell 463 00:21:20,130 --> 00:21:18,310 them that I was when I was sent back 464 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:20,140 they said oh we've got a problem because 465 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:22,330 after all the newspaper reporters are 466 00:21:25,230 --> 00:21:23,290 going to say what happened in New 467 00:21:26,850 --> 00:21:25,240 Orleans that she is not in cancer 468 00:21:29,370 --> 00:21:26,860 research anymore so they put me in a 469 00:21:31,620 --> 00:21:29,380 really fancy laboratory at the same time 470 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:31,630 they destroyed my college records for 471 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:33,610 example I invented a new way to get 472 00:21:36,780 --> 00:21:35,170 magnesium out of seawater when I was 473 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:36,790 just 15 years old went to the 474 00:21:43,020 --> 00:21:39,970 International fair dial chemical took 475 00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:43,030 that new method alright which I invented 476 00:21:47,670 --> 00:21:45,700 now but I in the records that says I 477 00:21:49,230 --> 00:21:47,680 have a D in general chemistry and 478 00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:49,240 therefore can't talk anymore courses 479 00:21:57,030 --> 00:21:54,430 yeah that's yeah they just blocked me in 480 00:21:58,890 --> 00:21:57,040 every direction so I have this you know 481 00:22:00,780 --> 00:21:58,900 degree that it includes medical 482 00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:00,790 anthropology as the closest I could get 483 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:04,360 just and I had to do it carefully it 484 00:22:08,930 --> 00:22:07,030 took me 25 years to slip 485 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:08,940 that degree and under the wire you know 486 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:12,880 that's crazy I mean it's like the things 487 00:22:19,140 --> 00:22:15,730 that this government did to you and your 488 00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:19,150 life is just and and the way that it 489 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:22,000 also harmed society because if the 490 00:22:27,210 --> 00:22:24,730 research yet you had was absolutely 491 00:22:31,170 --> 00:22:27,220 mind-blowing and amazing and and weighed 492 00:22:33,780 --> 00:22:31,180 beyond your years my goodness and I had 493 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:33,790 actually you yes ma'am you know and I'd 494 00:22:38,550 --> 00:22:36,010 actually invented a new way to detect 495 00:22:43,610 --> 00:22:38,560 cancer in the bloodstream and it took 496 00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:46,200 well that sounds about right because I 497 00:22:53,780 --> 00:22:49,150 mean a little bit after that era you 498 00:22:56,700 --> 00:22:53,790 know and I was a young guy I saw we 499 00:22:58,740 --> 00:22:56,710 young and recently married we had a 500 00:23:01,670 --> 00:22:58,750 couple that we socialized with and the 501 00:23:06,750 --> 00:23:01,680 woman worked at MD Anderson hospital 502 00:23:09,030 --> 00:23:06,760 does a lot of cancer and there happened 503 00:23:10,770 --> 00:23:09,040 to there was an NBC special that I saw 504 00:23:12,930 --> 00:23:10,780 that said that everybody was making any 505 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:12,940 progress with cancer treatment had their 506 00:23:17,370 --> 00:23:15,070 funds cut off and I mentioned that to 507 00:23:19,460 --> 00:23:17,380 her she said absolutely right she saw 508 00:23:21,660 --> 00:23:19,470 that special that they had a dead-bang 509 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:21,670 anybody made any success or progress 510 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:24,400 that they were cut off just like turning 511 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:27,970 off the faucet huge consortium out there 512 00:23:32,430 --> 00:23:29,890 that makes they make billions upon 513 00:23:34,650 --> 00:23:32,440 billions of dollars by treating cancer 514 00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:34,660 with very expensive chemicals and so on 515 00:23:41,070 --> 00:23:38,760 huge machines are built many doctors and 516 00:23:42,810 --> 00:23:41,080 buildings have been built and all that 517 00:23:46,350 --> 00:23:42,820 would go away if you could cure cancer 518 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:46,360 easily and we can that is a tragedy of 519 00:23:50,460 --> 00:23:48,730 it all well she'd worked there five 520 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:50,470 years and she'd seen it replicated many 521 00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:53,110 times where they just cut them down to 522 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:54,880 nothing if they had any success unless 523 00:23:58,770 --> 00:23:56,890 they they filed the same path like 524 00:24:04,380 --> 00:23:58,780 you're saying with the chemotherapy or 525 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:04,390 the the drugs yeah so what would you do 526 00:24:08,790 --> 00:24:06,490 if you could cure cancer using bacteria 527 00:24:12,180 --> 00:24:08,800 Faiz which was we were working on in the 528 00:24:14,820 --> 00:24:12,190 early 60s that terrifies me a virus that 529 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:14,830 can attack and discern a cell that's 530 00:24:18,780 --> 00:24:16,330 different from other cells in your body 531 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:18,790 because it thinks it's bacteria we've 532 00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:20,110 actually 533 00:24:24,509 --> 00:24:21,820 have bacteria flies that will attack 534 00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:24,519 cancer cells but that is cheap so what 535 00:24:29,610 --> 00:24:26,200 they've done you can look it up 536 00:24:31,529 --> 00:24:29,620 they piggy back chemo nano packets of 537 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:31,539 chemo on top of these tiny little 538 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:34,750 viruses and have the new viruses deliver 539 00:24:39,210 --> 00:24:37,090 the chemo to the cancer cells instead of 540 00:24:41,009 --> 00:24:39,220 using the virus itself which is cheap 541 00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:41,019 but then nobody can patent it because 542 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:44,289 it's that easy to do well that sounds 543 00:24:51,090 --> 00:24:47,890 like the slimy Devils it really does yep 544 00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:51,100 oh it does it does I mean oh it's 545 00:24:54,779 --> 00:24:52,840 disgusting but listen we're coming to 546 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,789 the bottom of the hour break we'll be 547 00:24:57,870 --> 00:24:56,559 right back with you defend we've got a 548 00:24:59,970 --> 00:24:57,880 lot of good stuff to talk about it's 549 00:25:06,360 --> 00:24:59,980 already packed very enlightening we'll 550 00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:06,370 be right back with Heidi and Judith and 551 00:25:11,789 --> 00:25:10,240 uh I guess well I'm not surprised that 552 00:25:15,409 --> 00:25:11,799 they've tried they've tried to subvert 553 00:25:18,299 --> 00:25:15,419 all kinds of sensible and economical 554 00:25:19,769 --> 00:25:18,309 efforts and you know Judith ah I 555 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:19,779 wouldn't doubt from it I've heard little 556 00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:21,190 glimmers of the fact they could treat 557 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:23,919 diabetes also expensively I mean I've 558 00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:28,750 heard littles rumors of it so well 559 00:25:33,539 --> 00:25:32,590 frankly we're very advanced we don't 560 00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:33,549 know what they're doing in the 561 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:35,350 biological labs today if they could 562 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:37,929 create it as they did a biological 563 00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:40,510 weapon using a fast-acting cancer 50 564 00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:45,220 years ago what do they have now that's 565 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:47,769 true I really am that's it's just 566 00:25:53,159 --> 00:25:49,510 despicable but you know it fits the 567 00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:53,169 pattern sadly it doesn't you know being 568 00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:55,480 a medical professional myself it's it's 569 00:26:00,090 --> 00:25:58,000 horrible to know that there is something 570 00:26:02,399 --> 00:26:00,100 better out there or there's something 571 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,409 that not that's not available to all my 572 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:04,960 patients even that we know of today it's 573 00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:06,730 like an you get a certain cancer oh the 574 00:26:10,769 --> 00:26:08,559 insurance won't cover that one that 575 00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:10,779 treatment or something and there's 576 00:26:15,690 --> 00:26:14,230 limitations it's it's sad but there's a 577 00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,700 better way than I just hope there's 578 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:17,440 enough room in hell for all these people 579 00:26:23,730 --> 00:26:20,970 that's all I got to tell you you know 580 00:26:25,289 --> 00:26:23,740 truthfully I would like to have you know 581 00:26:27,180 --> 00:26:25,299 I know I'm conservative in many areas 582 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:27,190 but not in the health area I'd like to 583 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:33,290 have national health care they don't 584 00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:35,210 wants you to have this because it's you 585 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:36,710 see here's what Nixon did a lot of 586 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:38,690 people don't know in 19 I think the 72 587 00:26:42,370 --> 00:26:41,210 that a bill came before Nixon he said 588 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:42,380 we're going to push this through even 589 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:43,730 though it's bad for the country and the 590 00:26:51,250 --> 00:26:46,130 music he was actually reported saying 591 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:51,260 that because it gave the go-ahead the 592 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:53,450 green light that the medical professions 593 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:56,930 could operate for profit hospitals and 594 00:27:01,870 --> 00:26:58,970 for-profit HMOs 595 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:01,880 which had not been allowed before and 596 00:27:06,130 --> 00:27:04,550 it's destroyed are so many we don't have 597 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:06,140 inheritances we have people losing their 598 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:08,630 home we have many bankruptcies because 599 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:11,210 there is no way and they also have a 600 00:27:15,850 --> 00:27:13,490 bill out there's a law that the 601 00:27:17,530 --> 00:27:15,860 government is not allowed to negotiate 602 00:27:20,410 --> 00:27:17,540 as they are in every other country all 603 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:20,420 yours you put any kind of you know any 604 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:23,690 kind of limit to how much I I can buy my 605 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:25,370 thyroid pills that it's the only 606 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,210 medication I take thyroid medication it 607 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:32,000 cost one set piece without insurance 608 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:34,490 because I'm a foreigner overseas here 609 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:37,370 with the coverage that I could only get 610 00:27:42,580 --> 00:27:39,530 because you have to be in country eight 611 00:27:46,810 --> 00:27:42,590 eight months before at least I do to 612 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:46,820 have Medicaid chip in cost me a dollar a 613 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:50,510 pill that's 100 times more I saw 614 00:27:58,390 --> 00:27:52,310 something I saw something like that 615 00:27:59,920 --> 00:27:58,400 recently I living overseas I might talk 616 00:28:02,110 --> 00:27:59,930 to my friend George and maybe I 617 00:28:04,660 --> 00:28:02,120 mentioned this before in an interview 618 00:28:06,790 --> 00:28:04,670 but George had a cancer operation he had 619 00:28:08,590 --> 00:28:06,800 was in the hospital six weeks they had 620 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:08,600 to open him up take part of this insides 621 00:28:13,090 --> 00:28:10,490 out they gave him chemo they gave him 622 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:13,100 radiation he had he had a self pump 623 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:14,720 where he he didn't have to beg for 624 00:28:18,460 --> 00:28:16,490 medication he pumps himself when you 625 00:28:21,010 --> 00:28:18,470 know how much when he needed it for pain 626 00:28:23,170 --> 00:28:21,020 and what happened I asked how much they 627 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:23,180 cost you George he said a dollar 25 a 628 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:33,130 can't afford I mean pretty medical care 629 00:28:40,210 --> 00:28:37,610 they pre-colored is five weeks well it's 630 00:28:42,340 --> 00:28:40,220 like you don't fix this 631 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:42,350 it's so ridiculous over here in this 632 00:28:46,780 --> 00:28:44,330 country when that's the one sticking 633 00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:46,790 point for me when it comes to those that 634 00:28:55,539 --> 00:28:46,909 are 635 00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:55,549 money people laying out in the street 636 00:29:04,359 --> 00:28:57,289 and step over them because that's what 637 00:29:06,479 --> 00:29:04,369 you're doing it's it's they've got I've 638 00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:06,489 got medical they've got medical tourism 639 00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:10,369 where my business partner about oh six 640 00:29:15,639 --> 00:29:13,129 or seven years ago he had a six way open 641 00:29:17,649 --> 00:29:15,649 heart bypass II thing anyway it was like 642 00:29:20,049 --> 00:29:17,659 a hundred eighty thousand you know for 643 00:29:22,379 --> 00:29:20,059 the insurance and all that but people 644 00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:22,389 can get that same operation in India 645 00:29:28,479 --> 00:29:25,399 from some surgeons that did their 646 00:29:30,729 --> 00:29:28,489 internship at Massachusetts General for 647 00:29:33,879 --> 00:29:30,739 ten thousand dollars 648 00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:33,889 yep same thing if they were in Sweden or 649 00:29:40,749 --> 00:29:38,080 Norway it'd be free right yeah exactly 650 00:29:43,629 --> 00:29:40,759 I'm willing to give up our library 651 00:29:45,789 --> 00:29:43,639 system in order to have free health care 652 00:29:47,739 --> 00:29:45,799 you know everybody say oh it's socialism 653 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:47,749 I'm like well so are the police so we're 654 00:29:52,419 --> 00:29:50,330 the firemen so the libraries what are we 655 00:29:54,369 --> 00:29:52,429 saying here you know I think we could do 656 00:29:59,320 --> 00:29:54,379 without the libraries so we can make 657 00:30:00,999 --> 00:29:59,330 sure we're social is over in Sweden 658 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:01,009 they're having elections coming up I 659 00:30:05,710 --> 00:30:03,369 mean they have like five to ten 660 00:30:08,229 --> 00:30:05,720 political parties everybody gets to vote 661 00:30:09,969 --> 00:30:08,239 and have their own voice and we have to 662 00:30:11,229 --> 00:30:09,979 in they're all buddies at the bottom you 663 00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:11,239 know they're shaking hands with you 664 00:30:17,589 --> 00:30:14,960 behind the seat oh I'm sure that every 665 00:30:19,629 --> 00:30:17,599 member of Congress has a bagman come 666 00:30:22,629 --> 00:30:19,639 through from the drug industry you know 667 00:30:24,129 --> 00:30:22,639 here's your sack congressman do us right 668 00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:24,139 or something and then leaves and that 669 00:30:34,419 --> 00:30:32,560 Lyndon Johnson Kennedy's body was still 670 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:34,429 warm when he called his stockbroker and 671 00:30:38,739 --> 00:30:36,169 said you have to sell ladybirds 672 00:30:40,060 --> 00:30:38,749 he called it damned Halliburton stock so 673 00:30:41,409 --> 00:30:40,070 they sold it to a friend and of course 674 00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:41,419 after Halliburton made their billions 675 00:30:48,820 --> 00:30:42,799 they got their money back when you 676 00:30:51,219 --> 00:30:48,830 retired make millions didn't uh didn't 677 00:30:53,019 --> 00:30:51,229 LBJ make some comments he was mistress 678 00:30:54,909 --> 00:30:53,029 that we won't have that Irishman to 679 00:30:55,869 --> 00:30:54,919 worry about anymore pretty soon or 680 00:30:58,269 --> 00:30:55,879 something to that effect 681 00:31:00,760 --> 00:30:58,279 oh yeah discounted what she said because 682 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:00,770 they said look we saw LBJ 683 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:02,690 you know briefly as he was going through 684 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:05,450 this you know there crowd there and he 685 00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:07,370 could have possibly been there but then 686 00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:08,420 you find out that there was a 687 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:10,790 doppelganger a cousin of his all right 688 00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:15,110 who was in the area and this man was 689 00:31:20,590 --> 00:31:18,110 later killed by a man named Ligget and 690 00:31:23,020 --> 00:31:20,600 later Liggett tried to kill and was 691 00:31:24,190 --> 00:31:23,030 caught trying to kill mrs. Liggett he 692 00:31:27,130 --> 00:31:24,200 hit her with a hammer and everything 693 00:31:30,460 --> 00:31:27,140 else if these were witnesses these were 694 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:30,470 witnesses that this this doppelganger 695 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:32,690 this cousin of LBJ's looked just like 696 00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:35,210 him he was in the movies with play LBJ 697 00:31:41,170 --> 00:31:37,340 he was murdered after the Kennedy 698 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:41,180 assassination so he could be two places 699 00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:43,130 at once and people would realize it just 700 00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:44,720 see him pass through the crowd you know 701 00:31:52,330 --> 00:31:49,070 so he has covered that man knew what was 702 00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:52,340 going to happen as you see him in the 703 00:31:58,990 --> 00:31:56,240 entered Dealey Plaza you there are it's 704 00:32:00,970 --> 00:31:59,000 amazing that he is a great big man 705 00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:00,980 sitting next to this little lady bird 706 00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:04,400 okay when they're waving their arms 707 00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:06,350 before getting to Dealey Plaza he's a 708 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:07,790 great big fella sitting up you can't 709 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:09,650 even see him in Dealey Plaza 710 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:11,840 he has gotten down he said well I was 711 00:32:17,530 --> 00:32:15,050 listening to my you know I I haven't had 712 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:17,540 a walkie-talkie I was listening you know 713 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:19,130 he's going to all of a sudden listen to 714 00:32:25,270 --> 00:32:21,590 his walkie-talkie and of course over the 715 00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:25,280 police radios came did this die you know 716 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:25,840 what that is 717 00:32:39,130 --> 00:32:30,890 no that's cuz that's the Morse code for 718 00:32:43,090 --> 00:32:39,140 victory oh wow that is well many people 719 00:32:45,970 --> 00:32:43,100 said look I heard the shot they heard 720 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:45,980 bang bang bang you cannot do that with 721 00:32:51,630 --> 00:32:48,890 it that credit rifle that you have to 722 00:32:54,610 --> 00:32:51,640 handle is cumbersome very cumbersome you 723 00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:54,620 know I actually believe it it's kind of 724 00:33:00,370 --> 00:32:56,630 weird maybe I guess it's kind of sicko 725 00:33:02,530 --> 00:33:00,380 but I you know I live in that general 726 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:02,540 area I mean I live on the Dallas side 727 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:07,850 but I visited Dealey Plaza on a errand a 728 00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:12,170 few years back and I guess I was amazed 729 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:13,929 Judith about how small and 730 00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:18,970 really was I mean yeah it really was 731 00:33:22,859 --> 00:33:20,860 but here's why I was gonna say what's 732 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:22,869 kind of sicko is that all the sudden 733 00:33:28,049 --> 00:33:25,090 there's around this kind of a macabre 734 00:33:31,109 --> 00:33:28,059 scene or site there's all these luxury 735 00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:31,119 condominiums around it I mean like it's 736 00:33:38,489 --> 00:33:33,340 up uptown place to live it's just kind 737 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:38,499 of weird but it's knows where Dealey 738 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:41,049 Plaza is and they will not rename it 739 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:43,570 like Kennedy Plaza or anything they will 740 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:45,850 not put a statue up there they have a 741 00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:48,730 large kind of a funny built you know if 742 00:33:52,019 --> 00:33:50,440 the building looks like it's that you 743 00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:52,029 can enter in sight and there's only a 744 00:33:56,940 --> 00:33:54,159 black slab it's like a coffin that they 745 00:33:59,700 --> 00:33:56,950 put in there there's not one not what 746 00:34:02,190 --> 00:33:59,710 not even Ali named for Kennedy in Dallas 747 00:34:03,570 --> 00:34:02,200 not even an ally that's true that's true 748 00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:03,580 I've never seen anything named after 749 00:34:10,889 --> 00:34:07,840 Kennedy was amazing you know I have to 750 00:34:12,899 --> 00:34:10,899 tell you Judith I and this might be of 751 00:34:16,169 --> 00:34:12,909 interest free to know that last week 752 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:16,179 Friday I had a gentleman on John Goodwin 753 00:34:23,010 --> 00:34:19,359 that was speaking of our good friend Jim 754 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,020 Marrs as last writings and we gave his 755 00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:25,599 last writings away here on inception 756 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:28,720 radio and unfortunately we lost our dear 757 00:34:33,539 --> 00:34:31,210 friend and and you know when I contacted 758 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:33,549 you Judith on Facebook I honestly 759 00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:35,770 thought that you knew and and it was 760 00:34:39,059 --> 00:34:37,359 just such a shock to be the one to tell 761 00:34:42,690 --> 00:34:39,069 you that Jim Marrs had passed that was 762 00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:42,700 heartbreaking what a cool guy was he 763 00:34:46,139 --> 00:34:44,470 actually sent me an email just a couple 764 00:34:47,879 --> 00:34:46,149 days earlier you know he's suddenly he 765 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:47,889 passed and they said a heart attack but 766 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:51,129 actually knowing my medicine I believe 767 00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:53,530 what happened really he was on dialysis 768 00:34:58,020 --> 00:34:56,020 at home there and you just can't tub 769 00:35:00,990 --> 00:34:58,030 they're really not that good in this 770 00:35:03,210 --> 00:35:01,000 country and I mean basically that that's 771 00:35:05,609 --> 00:35:03,220 the end you can't get good home care 772 00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,619 with dialysis at home not unless you're 773 00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:07,599 a millionaire you know Jim had a cute 774 00:35:16,109 --> 00:35:13,660 little ranch ranch yet and this is oh it 775 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:16,119 breaks my heart because this man was the 776 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:18,430 first researcher to take me seriously in 777 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:20,920 1999 right and we're in this restaurant 778 00:35:26,099 --> 00:35:23,710 I didn't want anybody to you know I 779 00:35:28,050 --> 00:35:26,109 didn't know him from Adam I didn't do 780 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:28,060 any research on who 781 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:30,250 I didn't know who this man was all right 782 00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:32,170 when I told him that Lee had an 783 00:35:36,270 --> 00:35:34,180 important agenda the board team he sat 784 00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:36,280 up straight he said what he said nobody 785 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:37,990 knows about the abort team he himself 786 00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:40,570 had only found out recently and then he 787 00:35:44,370 --> 00:35:42,280 named a bunch of names and I said stop 788 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:44,380 that's the name he said that's the name 789 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:45,910 he said he mixed him up with all these 790 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:47,710 other names to see if I would know that 791 00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:48,130 name 792 00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:50,590 Robert Tosh Plumlee Plumlee came out 793 00:35:56,460 --> 00:35:53,590 2014 stood at least grave and gave Lee a 794 00:36:00,600 --> 00:35:56,470 military salute that's on record we 795 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:00,610 posted it amazing so when I went out who 796 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:03,910 is this plot this lovely guy who's this 797 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:07,330 guy Robert Lumley you saying Robert Tosh 798 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:10,750 only CIA contract pilot he was actually 799 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:13,690 all has gone and testified before 800 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:15,370 Congress just a couple years ago about 801 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:19,090 CIA you know hauling in tons of cocaine 802 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:21,370 you know it's all about that it's like 803 00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:25,810 very feel right right well I don't know 804 00:36:32,130 --> 00:36:29,440 the whole files that have come out and 805 00:36:35,490 --> 00:36:32,140 so the book mainly you know you've got 806 00:36:37,260 --> 00:36:35,500 all this stuff for example about oh I 807 00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:37,270 could I could go on and on about the 808 00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:39,310 various files but one it really irks me 809 00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:41,110 that that has come out it's the one that 810 00:36:45,570 --> 00:36:43,390 says that Lee Oswald was colluding with 811 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:45,580 the Russians because he went to the 812 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:47,730 Soviet embassy and talked to Kosta cop 813 00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:52,570 well ya know get this if you went there 814 00:36:57,150 --> 00:36:55,270 or I went there anybody to get a visa to 815 00:36:59,820 --> 00:36:57,160 go to this day you have to go to an 816 00:37:02,280 --> 00:36:59,830 embassy or have a friend in the USSR in 817 00:37:04,170 --> 00:37:02,290 order to get a visa so he chose in there 818 00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:04,180 he has to fill out forms talk to 819 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:06,310 somebody then he has to have an 820 00:37:12,420 --> 00:37:09,610 interview the only person that you could 821 00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:12,430 get to interview you with the Acosta 822 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:14,320 cost so if you went there you would have 823 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:16,510 to be interviewed by him if I went there 824 00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:19,210 so Lee Osman Gazi said look he was 825 00:37:24,510 --> 00:37:21,520 talking to cops to come who was a KGB 826 00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:24,520 assassin he was colluding with the 827 00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:25,990 Russians he was colluding with the 828 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:27,820 Cubans and when they didn't go along 829 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:29,410 with everything he went ahead and killed 830 00:37:36,810 --> 00:37:31,570 Kennedy anyway that's what they're 831 00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:36,820 pushing now okay how's that okay yeah 832 00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:40,270 yeah when in reality all he did was just 833 00:37:44,099 --> 00:37:41,200 the normal 834 00:37:47,060 --> 00:37:44,109 yeah it was just a normal process you 835 00:37:50,339 --> 00:37:47,070 know he was trying to bring that 836 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:50,349 biological weapon into Cuba when the 837 00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:52,450 contact did not show up this is why he 838 00:37:55,770 --> 00:37:54,220 went to the you know he went to a twist 839 00:37:58,410 --> 00:37:55,780 party he started talking to all these 840 00:38:00,240 --> 00:37:58,420 people there were medical students and 841 00:38:02,490 --> 00:38:00,250 so on he's trying to find the contact 842 00:38:05,069 --> 00:38:02,500 maybe that he was afraid or chickened 843 00:38:07,650 --> 00:38:05,079 out anyway eventually he goes himself 844 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:07,660 anybody who says he planned to go to 845 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:10,570 Cuba okay that he was trying to get in 846 00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:12,930 actually this was a last-minute effort 847 00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:15,520 and we know this because they said wait 848 00:38:19,470 --> 00:38:17,020 a minute you can't make this application 849 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:19,480 without passport photos he had to go and 850 00:38:25,890 --> 00:38:23,380 get them he wasn't prepared you know to 851 00:38:28,650 --> 00:38:25,900 fill out passport to put passport photos 852 00:38:30,089 --> 00:38:28,660 in there so he had to go in and spend a 853 00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:30,099 day getting his photographs and all that 854 00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:32,200 now if he had really intended he was 855 00:38:35,099 --> 00:38:33,790 done at first because that man traveled 856 00:38:36,569 --> 00:38:35,109 all over the world he was at the 857 00:38:41,310 --> 00:38:36,579 Philippi he was everywhere where you had 858 00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:41,320 to have passport photos so he there's so 859 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:43,240 much going on it shows that they're just 860 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:45,010 trying to make it look like why did he 861 00:38:49,290 --> 00:38:47,650 go through Cuba he wanted to get what's 862 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:49,300 called a transit visa because if he 863 00:38:53,970 --> 00:38:51,339 stayed in Cuba and handed off something 864 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:53,980 we killed Casserly he's dead meat so of 865 00:38:57,660 --> 00:38:55,450 course he's going to get a transit visa 866 00:38:59,809 --> 00:38:57,670 which means like oh I want to see Cuba 867 00:39:02,760 --> 00:38:59,819 and then I'm going to go on to the USSR 868 00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:02,770 well as as you leave Cuba you can take 869 00:39:06,359 --> 00:39:04,300 any plane you want he could have gone to 870 00:39:08,099 --> 00:39:06,369 the USSR it looked good for the 871 00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:08,109 application to go to a communist country 872 00:39:12,839 --> 00:39:10,060 but it probably was kind of stick go 873 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:12,849 right back to Mexico City that's where 874 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:15,670 we intended to meet so they they don't 875 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:17,290 know what his intentions were and they 876 00:39:21,450 --> 00:39:19,450 tried to make it look like that he was 877 00:39:29,099 --> 00:39:21,460 colluding with with the Cubans and the 878 00:39:31,050 --> 00:39:29,109 Russians and it's all baloney so so how 879 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:31,060 did you come to meet the Oswald to begin 880 00:39:36,859 --> 00:39:33,810 with I mean how did you come across it 881 00:39:41,069 --> 00:39:36,869 immediately yes 882 00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:41,079 well when I invented a new way to get 883 00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:42,520 magnesium out of seawater which I told 884 00:39:48,270 --> 00:39:46,540 you about I think we then I was at the 885 00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,280 International Science Fair meant Wernher 886 00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:50,560 von Braun and all kinds of CIA and 887 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:53,680 military people and they directed me to 888 00:39:58,110 --> 00:39:55,570 Walter Reed 889 00:40:01,500 --> 00:39:58,120 you can see that I have a letter from 890 00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:01,510 dr. Jeff colbus saying that I'm sending 891 00:40:06,090 --> 00:40:04,600 all these this material all these exotic 892 00:40:07,770 --> 00:40:06,100 chemicals to work with because you're 893 00:40:10,830 --> 00:40:07,780 doing the same things that we're doing I 894 00:40:14,190 --> 00:40:10,840 was working with with a icing down port 895 00:40:17,370 --> 00:40:14,200 mice because any time it tumors kept 896 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:17,380 cold it can't multiply so I was looking 897 00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,130 at all hyperthermia at that time so I've 898 00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:22,720 got those records showing I was in 899 00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:24,190 contact with Walter Reed I was in 900 00:40:29,850 --> 00:40:27,700 contact with Oak Ridge and then in the 901 00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:29,860 end I am in contact with two Nobel Prize 902 00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:32,560 winners and three of the most important 903 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:34,630 doctors in oncology that is cancer that 904 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:36,640 we're in the United States at the time 905 00:40:40,530 --> 00:40:38,770 doc that was dr. Harold deal the vice 906 00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:40,540 president of American Cancer Society in 907 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:43,030 charge of all the research dr. Moore 908 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:45,970 George Moore of Roswell Park and all 909 00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:47,770 three of them were working together with 910 00:40:49,770 --> 00:40:48,160 dr. 911 00:40:53,490 --> 00:40:49,780 ochsner and they were going places and 912 00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:53,500 saying look smoking is so dangerous it 913 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:55,030 can cause cancer and people were not 914 00:40:59,850 --> 00:40:56,530 listening but they went testified 915 00:41:01,920 --> 00:40:59,860 together now here I gave cancer two mice 916 00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:01,930 in only seven days with cigarette 917 00:41:06,570 --> 00:41:03,760 products you can imagine how interested 918 00:41:09,570 --> 00:41:06,580 they were in sponsoring me you know and 919 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:09,580 so it doesn't the new state I was asked 920 00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:13,210 to try and make cancer more deadly and I 921 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:16,480 fell for it I thought oh they say if we 922 00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:18,490 find out what makes cancer grow faster 923 00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:20,740 and more vigorously that that means that 924 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:23,830 we'll find a way to kill it but no they 925 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,530 were interested in killing Castro with 926 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:28,480 it oh really 927 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:32,650 so I joined a team a big team but they 928 00:41:37,380 --> 00:41:33,970 didn't know each other they kept this 929 00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:37,390 compartmentalized right and this is 50 930 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:40,150 years ago so like if there's someone on 931 00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:42,910 their list that they want to do away 932 00:41:48,420 --> 00:41:44,820 with they could do that quite easily 933 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:48,430 well here is the clue my friend you look 934 00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:50,290 at the signs outside the pharmacies and 935 00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:53,230 outside supermarkets free flu shot I 936 00:41:58,530 --> 00:41:55,480 have never taken a flu shot I know 937 00:42:03,470 --> 00:41:58,540 better although I've never - and I by 938 00:42:07,010 --> 00:42:06,360 real quick last year because I'm a 939 00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:07,020 medical 940 00:42:12,830 --> 00:42:08,940 you know they forced that on you to have 941 00:42:15,710 --> 00:42:12,840 to take a flu shot I shot I took it last 942 00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:15,720 year do you know I got the flu twice and 943 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:19,350 I was sick five weeks with the with the 944 00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:22,530 with a flu temperature I got stuck in 945 00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,710 the hospital even from it your your 946 00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:30,480 professional so I would know what's 947 00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:33,750 going on is by creating these vaccines 948 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:35,790 we create antibodies and some of these 949 00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:38,250 some of these viruses survive well and 950 00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:40,230 then they are forced to mutate okay to 951 00:42:43,730 --> 00:42:42,000 get more advanced they become more 952 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:43,740 deadly because you're attacking them 953 00:42:47,810 --> 00:42:46,410 with these inefficient and then even now 954 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:47,820 the flu shot they say that they're using 955 00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:50,970 today is 42 percent effective all right 956 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:53,820 so we're forcing these slowed viruses 957 00:42:58,990 --> 00:42:56,610 instead of dying out to mutate to become 958 00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,000 even more powerful okay to survive 959 00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:02,160 that's what's going on and so it's 960 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:03,420 becoming more and more deadly right 961 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:09,570 under your eyes my brother he's now my 962 00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:10,890 brother's deceased now but he was a 963 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:13,619 microbiologist for the CDC and he told 964 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:16,410 me 25 years ago though he told me 25 965 00:43:22,490 --> 00:43:18,090 years ago didn't even get close to a flu 966 00:43:24,740 --> 00:43:22,500 vaccine it's a joke he told me that it 967 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:24,750 clogs up your immune system we care you 968 00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,490 know we carry antibodies around with 969 00:43:30,410 --> 00:43:28,560 this one of the most disgusting thing 970 00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:30,420 that's going on is that you have a 971 00:43:33,590 --> 00:43:32,070 babies that are born with their mothers 972 00:43:35,810 --> 00:43:33,600 antibodies and if they're nursing their 973 00:43:38,540 --> 00:43:35,820 mothers they're all safe they what their 974 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:38,550 veterinarians will not give puppies the 975 00:43:42,349 --> 00:43:40,770 vaccinations that we give to our babies 976 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:42,359 because they test the blood and if there 977 00:43:45,410 --> 00:43:43,770 are antibodies from the mother's milk 978 00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:45,420 they won't do it because it can cause 979 00:43:49,970 --> 00:43:47,220 brain damage to the puppies but they do 980 00:43:53,060 --> 00:43:49,980 that to our kids our babies with all 981 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:53,070 sorts of vaccines while they still have 982 00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:54,690 their mothers antibodies in them and 983 00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:58,640 then we have this it's an absolute 984 00:44:06,380 --> 00:44:01,680 pandemic of autism going on at the end 985 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:06,390 oh yes I've heard that's just only 11 to 986 00:44:13,250 --> 00:44:09,450 13 vaccines are required in Scandinavia 987 00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:13,260 and their rate of autism is so low 988 00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:16,230 compared to ours it's ludicrous we want 989 00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:20,310 46 to 50 vaccines for our children why 990 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:20,700 are the 991 00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:25,170 the thing a lot of money they make tons 992 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:30,630 of money off of this yeah I mean when 993 00:44:34,339 --> 00:44:32,250 we're talking about like birth control 994 00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:34,349 pills you know they're made in machines 995 00:44:38,569 --> 00:44:35,849 that look like washing machines that's 996 00:44:40,339 --> 00:44:38,579 how they make them in huge batches by 997 00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:40,349 the way these birth control pills this 998 00:44:45,460 --> 00:44:43,020 is a big problem in that it's found an 999 00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:45,470 illness in the water system it is 1000 00:44:52,819 --> 00:44:50,640 emasculating our male population they 1001 00:44:54,349 --> 00:44:52,829 find all kinds of Polliwogs for example 1002 00:44:56,050 --> 00:44:54,359 that used to turn into boys and girls 1003 00:45:11,990 --> 00:44:56,060 and they're all turning into girls 1004 00:45:14,990 --> 00:45:12,000 that's there in the water in America has 1005 00:45:20,359 --> 00:45:15,000 gotten weaker over time it's true it's 1006 00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:20,369 well proven the hand strength of men has 1007 00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:22,710 gone down 50% in the last 20 years I've 1008 00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:24,720 got this on good authority I've read it 1009 00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:27,780 from respectable source and I could tell 1010 00:45:31,849 --> 00:45:29,280 it without reading it from a respectable 1011 00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:31,859 source cuz I'm fairly old Buzzard but I 1012 00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:36,720 am kind of men are growing beards the 1013 00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:38,940 men who are still men are interested in 1014 00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:44,760 looking like men anyway but there's 1015 00:45:49,130 --> 00:45:47,220 something very it's it's so criminal did 1016 00:45:52,430 --> 00:45:49,140 it makes you want to just go outside and 1017 00:45:54,609 --> 00:45:52,440 throw up it really does can we do here's 1018 00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:54,619 the thing people are feeling helpless 1019 00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:57,599 now if we can spread the word and I ask 1020 00:46:01,520 --> 00:45:59,640 people please buy the book manly as you 1021 00:46:04,130 --> 00:46:01,530 do that all that money goes to get more 1022 00:46:06,380 --> 00:46:04,140 copies made of me and Lee and as people 1023 00:46:09,290 --> 00:46:06,390 read the truth especially when I was a 1024 00:46:10,849 --> 00:46:09,300 new book Kennedy and Oswald the big 1025 00:46:13,579 --> 00:46:10,859 picture we're bringing in the forces 1026 00:46:17,690 --> 00:46:13,589 behind the scenes who made sure that 1027 00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:17,700 Kennedy would die that day and I just 1028 00:46:23,180 --> 00:46:21,569 had heartbreak actually having to write 1029 00:46:25,490 --> 00:46:23,190 some of that material I'm so glad that 1030 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:25,500 ed Schwartz was there to help you know 1031 00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:27,930 thank goodness Kennedy made so many 1032 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:30,240 enemies I mean my god he had the federal 1033 00:46:35,210 --> 00:46:33,450 reserve he's gonna gun them down and uh 1034 00:46:39,049 --> 00:46:35,220 what was it or the Texas oil 1035 00:46:42,020 --> 00:46:39,059 millionaires yes that new new file that 1036 00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:42,030 has come out it's amazing you know that 1037 00:46:47,299 --> 00:46:44,910 General Charles Cabell with CIA Kennedy 1038 00:46:50,059 --> 00:46:47,309 humiliated him and his family by firing 1039 00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:50,069 him destroyed his career his brother is 1040 00:46:55,930 --> 00:46:53,220 Earl was Earl Cabell of Mayor Dallas 1041 00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:55,940 where Kennedy was shot but now this new 1042 00:47:02,630 --> 00:46:58,650 file came out showing that earl campbell 1043 00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:02,640 just like his brother with CIA oh really 1044 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:06,630 oh yeah then media is not talking about 1045 00:47:13,010 --> 00:47:07,650 that they talk about 1046 00:47:14,990 --> 00:47:13,020 oh he met with Kosta cause you know what 1047 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:15,000 I wonder what wonder what documents they 1048 00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,770 didn't want to or why they put the 1049 00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,960 freeze on releasing some de zaak just 1050 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:20,880 gonna ask that and why were some of 1051 00:47:27,140 --> 00:47:25,290 these papers not allowing out well in 1052 00:47:28,579 --> 00:47:27,150 some cases it's kind of embarrassing you 1053 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:28,589 know you had what's called the custom 1054 00:47:35,150 --> 00:47:32,490 captain's about memo in that it said we 1055 00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:35,160 have to do something to convince the 1056 00:47:40,460 --> 00:47:37,980 public that Lee Harvey Oswald killed who 1057 00:47:41,210 --> 00:47:40,470 was alone you know as a lone nut killed 1058 00:47:45,049 --> 00:47:41,220 Kennedy 1059 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:45,059 what no we find out that the captain 1060 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:47,490 Bach memo wasn't just kassenbach talk 1061 00:47:50,809 --> 00:47:49,290 you know writing it it turns out that 1062 00:47:53,329 --> 00:47:50,819 they put his name on it 1063 00:47:56,329 --> 00:47:53,339 the real memo it turns out it came from 1064 00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:56,339 Hoover himself saying that so they 1065 00:47:59,960 --> 00:47:58,140 wanted to keep that secret you know this 1066 00:48:03,039 --> 00:47:59,970 that Hoover's the one thing we have to 1067 00:48:05,539 --> 00:48:03,049 convince the public that Oswald did it 1068 00:48:08,420 --> 00:48:05,549 the Oh Hoover was a miserable slimy 1069 00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:08,430 little worm himself we do that back then 1070 00:48:17,210 --> 00:48:13,260 we call them mrs. Hoover yeah best thing 1071 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:17,220 going but but no it's it's it's so 1072 00:48:20,660 --> 00:48:19,530 disgusting and you know I mean I know 1073 00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:20,670 where there's a lot more talking about 1074 00:48:26,089 --> 00:48:24,119 Lee but I'm also of the opinion crime 1075 00:48:27,859 --> 00:48:26,099 might as you know well versed on it as I 1076 00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:27,869 should be but there's been a lot of 1077 00:48:32,539 --> 00:48:30,720 suggestions that the the Robert Kennedy 1078 00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:32,549 assassination was not as it seemed 1079 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:40,710 either how can you go to the Los Angeles 1080 00:48:46,610 --> 00:48:43,770 Police Department you find out that 1081 00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:46,620 they had destroyed what was it at 1082 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:49,670 something like 25 or 30 boxes of 1083 00:48:55,220 --> 00:48:52,290 evidence from the Kennedy assassination 1084 00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:55,230 there in California because they said 1085 00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:56,880 they didn't have room for it I put a 1086 00:49:00,170 --> 00:48:58,650 picture of the building the building is 1087 00:49:03,380 --> 00:49:00,180 as big as a hospital they didn't have 1088 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:03,390 room for those important boxes no oh I 1089 00:49:07,730 --> 00:49:05,010 know it's just the biggest bunch of 1090 00:49:09,260 --> 00:49:07,740 baloney but I mean III don't remember it 1091 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:09,270 verbatim but I mean there's some studies 1092 00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:10,890 I saw were that supposedly the 1093 00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:12,960 trajectory of the bullet that Sirhan 1094 00:49:16,010 --> 00:49:14,310 Sirhan could have shot would have never 1095 00:49:20,140 --> 00:49:16,020 entered Kennedy in such a manner and 1096 00:49:23,870 --> 00:49:22,190 Robert Kennedy was killed by bullets 1097 00:49:25,340 --> 00:49:23,880 from the back of in the back of his head 1098 00:49:27,020 --> 00:49:25,350 and course their hands from hand with 1099 00:49:28,460 --> 00:49:27,030 the truck that is very strange bullet 1100 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:28,470 that goes all the way around and gets 1101 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:30,810 him in the back of the head they don't 1102 00:49:39,550 --> 00:49:34,530 make a belt like that I know yeah yeah 1103 00:49:43,310 --> 00:49:41,750 understood and I think they should if 1104 00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:43,320 you carefully look at what happened 1105 00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,660 Edward Kennedy first the poor man was in 1106 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:48,000 an airline airplane crash it almost 1107 00:49:52,570 --> 00:49:50,370 killed him then he recovers from that 1108 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:52,580 and all of a sudden you see that he 1109 00:49:58,970 --> 00:49:57,570 Chappaquiddick you know around but they 1110 00:50:01,070 --> 00:49:58,980 were using a lot of they were putting 1111 00:50:04,250 --> 00:50:01,080 drugs in them I believe what happened 1112 00:50:06,740 --> 00:50:04,260 there is that because Mary Mary Jo 1113 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:06,750 Kopechne who is with him why I tell you 1114 00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:13,770 what I don't we've got to go to our top 1115 00:50:17,210 --> 00:50:15,000 of the hour break and we'll be right 1116 00:50:21,980 --> 00:50:17,220 back and I want to get right back on it 1117 00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:21,990 we get we'll be right back to do this 1118 00:50:26,570 --> 00:50:23,640 and Heidi and I didn't mean it eruption 1119 00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:26,580 before Judith but we had to go to the 1120 00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:31,500 commercial break but there's so many so 1121 00:50:35,570 --> 00:50:34,020 many issues on this that it just you 1122 00:50:39,710 --> 00:50:35,580 need a warrant or a report to keep track 1123 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:39,720 of it you know a couple of people in the 1124 00:50:46,730 --> 00:50:41,970 chatroom we're asking what you thought 1125 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:46,740 of these two theories that a Dallas 1126 00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:48,770 police officer did the shooting or 1127 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:53,310 Castro who do you think Oh what do you 1128 00:50:57,210 --> 00:50:54,810 think of that and who do you think may 1129 00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:57,220 all right the trigger okay 1130 00:51:02,580 --> 00:50:59,170 I am someone who talked to these 1131 00:51:04,410 --> 00:51:02,590 anti-castro people and and you know and 1132 00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:04,420 and of course Lee was posing as 1133 00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:06,430 pro-castro so he was in contact with 1134 00:51:11,370 --> 00:51:08,710 some of Castro's spies and things like 1135 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:11,380 that now what we discovered in which 1136 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:14,050 there is ample evidence course Castro 1137 00:51:18,210 --> 00:51:16,210 was delighted that nobody bombed Havana 1138 00:51:20,310 --> 00:51:18,220 because one mom would have killed him if 1139 00:51:22,410 --> 00:51:20,320 he was there it was destroyed it we 1140 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:22,420 couldn't hit World War three where I 1141 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:24,130 mean cancer was the last person that 1142 00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:26,770 would want to upset the Kennedys or any 1143 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:28,510 of the Kennedys because Bobby Kennedy 1144 00:51:31,950 --> 00:51:30,250 wanted to bomb you think that if Bobby 1145 00:51:34,109 --> 00:51:31,960 Kennedy's brothers is the one who said I 1146 00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:34,119 don't want to see Havana bomb just 1147 00:51:37,859 --> 00:51:36,609 murdered and it turned out that Castro 1148 00:51:39,810 --> 00:51:37,869 was involved how do you think Bobby 1149 00:51:41,730 --> 00:51:39,820 Kennedy would have reacted matter of 1150 00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:41,740 fact they're the last people on earth 1151 00:51:46,140 --> 00:51:43,540 who would have wanted Kennedy did the 1152 00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,150 single is for Russia we now know that 1153 00:51:50,490 --> 00:51:47,920 Russia didn't even have a near the 1154 00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:50,500 number of ballistic missiles that we did 1155 00:51:54,359 --> 00:51:52,750 and they were completely outnumbered but 1156 00:51:58,770 --> 00:51:54,369 they put out you know the big boldface 1157 00:52:01,080 --> 00:51:58,780 that they had a lot of stuff yeah they 1158 00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:01,090 get their chests to pee once a times 1159 00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:03,550 they wanted to talk they did not want to 1160 00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:06,190 that part the last thing he wanted was 1161 00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:09,670 they didn't want a war Hawk like LBJ to 1162 00:52:14,849 --> 00:52:12,550 take Kennedy's place a man who was 1163 00:52:17,329 --> 00:52:14,859 willing to go to Vietnam and create kill 1164 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:17,339 millions of people there Cambodia and 1165 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:20,290 over and you know the poor Vietnamese 1166 00:52:25,859 --> 00:52:23,530 they were all they were completely 1167 00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:25,869 helpless more bombs were dumped on 1168 00:52:32,670 --> 00:52:30,510 Vietnam that entire world war two Wow 1169 00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:32,680 well you know that's been one of the 1170 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:34,030 things that was suggested that got 1171 00:52:38,849 --> 00:52:35,650 Kennedy killed was he was going to wind 1172 00:52:41,250 --> 00:52:38,859 the war down in Vietnam exactly because 1173 00:52:43,470 --> 00:52:41,260 if you do that what you have they can't 1174 00:52:45,950 --> 00:52:43,480 make money look at Lyndon Johnson he 1175 00:52:48,359 --> 00:52:45,960 becomes president he has sold 1176 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:48,369 Halliburton stock Halliburton is now 1177 00:52:53,370 --> 00:52:51,130 Kellogg you know its Kellogg Company in 1178 00:52:55,650 --> 00:52:53,380 Halliburton they have made billions they 1179 00:52:57,690 --> 00:52:55,660 as they continue to this very day 50 1180 00:53:00,810 --> 00:52:57,700 years later still in the business of 1181 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:00,820 making sure we're still using them for 1182 00:53:06,839 --> 00:53:03,970 all their war materiel well hell yeah 1183 00:53:08,849 --> 00:53:06,849 Bush gets an office and they formulate a 1184 00:53:10,410 --> 00:53:08,859 war in Iraq for no good reason 1185 00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:10,420 even Clinton 1186 00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:12,160 said that the this that Saddam Hussein 1187 00:53:18,859 --> 00:53:15,700 was not a threat etcetera etc and you 1188 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:18,869 know couldn't just been out of office 1189 00:53:23,819 --> 00:53:21,970 how can we sell 20 percent of our 1190 00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:23,829 uranium can Russia there's such an enemy 1191 00:53:32,579 --> 00:53:30,160 I know he is but Kennedy had a lot of 1192 00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:32,589 people gunning for him Kennedy had with 1193 00:53:37,170 --> 00:53:34,270 us the Federal Reserve he's going to try 1194 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:37,180 to do away with that he had the the anti 1195 00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:40,210 the war manufacturers that want to have 1196 00:53:48,750 --> 00:53:42,160 a war in Vietnam I mean he was against 1197 00:53:51,390 --> 00:53:48,760 you know escalating that exactly I mean 1198 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:51,400 Allen Dulles who was fired has a CIA 1199 00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:53,650 that man still kept going to Langley 1200 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:55,119 every day he still showed up in his 1201 00:53:57,089 --> 00:53:56,530 office after he's fired and they 1202 00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:57,099 listened to him 1203 00:54:01,230 --> 00:53:59,200 they didn't listen to the new appointee 1204 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:01,240 poor that poor guy he didn't know what 1205 00:54:05,370 --> 00:54:03,130 was going on everything was going still 1206 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:05,380 going through Dulles yes I didn't know 1207 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:07,290 that at all that's amazing 1208 00:54:15,660 --> 00:54:13,930 nobody knows yeah because there was a 1209 00:54:17,250 --> 00:54:15,670 Kennedy another thing people don't 1210 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:17,260 realize they they will argue and say 1211 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:19,930 look Kennedy was all for the Federal 1212 00:54:24,780 --> 00:54:22,690 Reserve System because he gave a speech 1213 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:24,790 indeed he did he said what wonderful 1214 00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:27,010 guys you are you said I just love you 1215 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:28,089 and I think you're doing the right thing 1216 00:54:31,890 --> 00:54:29,650 by the way 1217 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:31,900 of course I'm condensing everything by 1218 00:54:38,220 --> 00:54:33,730 the way I would like to go and issue 1219 00:54:40,109 --> 00:54:38,230 real money you say like a girl will get 1220 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:40,119 more confidence they'll get more 1221 00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:42,730 confidence in the US dollars and we'll 1222 00:54:46,289 --> 00:54:44,500 take the real money out again and 1223 00:54:50,130 --> 00:54:46,299 they'll be using yours and oh no that's 1224 00:54:50,730 --> 00:54:50,140 all safe okay they said go ahead because 1225 00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:50,740 basically 1226 00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:52,150 Kennedy would not have been able to 1227 00:54:57,420 --> 00:54:54,609 issue despite being president without 1228 00:54:59,339 --> 00:54:57,430 many objections so does he put out a few 1229 00:55:02,280 --> 00:54:59,349 dollars to help buttress he puts out 1230 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:02,290 five billion which today is fifty 1231 00:55:06,690 --> 00:55:04,930 billion in other words everybody was 1232 00:55:09,569 --> 00:55:06,700 buying US Treasury notes they weren't 1233 00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:09,579 buying any Federal Reserve notes anymore 1234 00:55:15,210 --> 00:55:12,790 they could get silver for it yes the 1235 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:15,220 said hated that so he fooled them and 1236 00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:17,650 they never forgot that so what we have 1237 00:55:21,809 --> 00:55:19,390 on the Warren Commission board we have 1238 00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:21,819 McCoy who is the heads of the former 1239 00:55:28,049 --> 00:55:24,400 head of the World Bank and 1240 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:28,059 also we have Ford who move the bullet 1241 00:55:31,890 --> 00:55:29,650 hole in the back of Kennedy onion 1242 00:55:33,930 --> 00:55:31,900 Kennedy's back up five inches and said 1243 00:55:34,499 --> 00:55:33,940 so before he died for the good of the 1244 00:55:36,930 --> 00:55:34,509 country 1245 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:36,940 because that bullet hole in the back of 1246 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:39,249 Kennedy was too low to have come from 1247 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:41,170 any gun from the Texas School Book 1248 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:43,930 Depository so he moves it up so that 1249 00:55:51,469 --> 00:55:46,210 they create the magic bullet 1250 00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:51,479 now you saw this shooting correct 1251 00:55:59,269 --> 00:55:55,119 excuse me when was the last moment that 1252 00:56:02,459 --> 00:55:59,279 you you saw Lee prior to the the show 1253 00:56:04,019 --> 00:56:02,469 immediate attack with him only thirty 1254 00:56:06,329 --> 00:56:04,029 seven and a half hours before the 1255 00:56:09,089 --> 00:56:06,339 assassination he said he went home to 1256 00:56:10,739 --> 00:56:09,099 say goodbye to his children and you know 1257 00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:10,749 that morning he left his wedding ring 1258 00:56:15,450 --> 00:56:13,839 behind now if you read read Manley 1259 00:56:18,930 --> 00:56:15,460 you'll see that Lee wore his wedding 1260 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:18,940 ring Russian style on his right hand and 1261 00:56:23,579 --> 00:56:20,890 I wore mine American style on the left 1262 00:56:25,289 --> 00:56:23,589 and we held hands our rings clicked and 1263 00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:25,299 clicked together and it made I feel very 1264 00:56:35,309 --> 00:56:33,400 embarrassed yeah and because we had 1265 00:56:37,739 --> 00:56:35,319 different standards back then I could 1266 00:56:39,390 --> 00:56:37,749 not divorce my husband I wanted to but I 1267 00:56:41,789 --> 00:56:39,400 would have been fired from Riley which 1268 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:41,799 was very conventional and are 1269 00:56:46,769 --> 00:56:44,170 conservative so I had to stay married to 1270 00:56:48,329 --> 00:56:46,779 a man I don't I didn't I had I was in 1271 00:56:52,609 --> 00:56:48,339 love with sex and thought it was in love 1272 00:56:56,910 --> 00:56:52,619 with a man and then I found a real man 1273 00:56:59,999 --> 00:56:56,920 Koch's and he was married as well and he 1274 00:57:02,130 --> 00:57:00,009 was miserable as well because marina a 1275 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:02,140 lot of people don't know this Suman 1276 00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:03,729 after she got pregnant they had been 1277 00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:06,160 married very long Lee had to make a very 1278 00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:09,609 dangerous journey to Moscow he had to 1279 00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:11,950 talk to the people in embassy he really 1280 00:57:16,979 --> 00:57:14,079 was a spy he had to go there without 1281 00:57:19,019 --> 00:57:16,989 travel papers that means if he were he 1282 00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:19,029 got caught where are your papers they 1283 00:57:23,339 --> 00:57:21,729 would have executed him you know what 1284 00:57:25,950 --> 00:57:23,349 does my really do while he's gone now 1285 00:57:28,589 --> 00:57:25,960 forgive me Marina has gone through hell 1286 00:57:30,749 --> 00:57:28,599 and we're not the same now as we were 1287 00:57:33,870 --> 00:57:30,759 way back then you're not blaming herself 1288 00:57:36,059 --> 00:57:33,880 but at the time as soon as he was gone 1289 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:36,069 she contacted her old boyfriend and 1290 00:57:40,530 --> 00:57:38,050 slept with him Oh 1291 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:40,540 other married new married she was 1292 00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:42,610 interested in getting to America so she 1293 00:57:48,810 --> 00:57:45,280 was all for it now a lot of people said 1294 00:57:51,450 --> 00:57:48,820 how cruel that Lee Oswald was because he 1295 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:51,460 would not let his wife learn English he 1296 00:57:55,770 --> 00:57:53,050 kept her sequestered so she had no 1297 00:57:57,900 --> 00:57:55,780 friends not a mean man but by doing that 1298 00:57:59,850 --> 00:57:57,910 nobody not even the Warren Commission 1299 00:58:01,740 --> 00:57:59,860 could say that she was a spy because she 1300 00:58:06,330 --> 00:58:01,750 was so isolated he did that to protect 1301 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:06,340 her I say huh let me ask you this let me 1302 00:58:10,670 --> 00:58:08,410 ask you this there's been some 1303 00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:10,680 discussion redirect on this that 1304 00:58:16,530 --> 00:58:13,870 Oswald's uncle was a mob associate for 1305 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:16,540 Carlos Marcello when he was yes that was 1306 00:58:22,830 --> 00:58:19,290 uncle Duke Charles Moretti 1307 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:22,840 okay so that is true okay well here's 1308 00:58:25,410 --> 00:58:23,410 the thing 1309 00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:25,420 remember the CIA and the Mafia at this 1310 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:27,310 time it was secret at the time it isn't 1311 00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:29,410 anymore we're working together to try to 1312 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:30,160 kill Castro 1313 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:33,010 Lee Oswald was trained by the oh and I 1314 00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:35,650 was borrowed by the CIA and his uncle's 1315 00:58:41,370 --> 00:58:37,270 NOSSA he was a perfect bridge between 1316 00:58:45,690 --> 00:58:41,380 the Mafia and the CIA and he was trusted 1317 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:45,700 by both sides you see yeah yeah Wow 1318 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:48,250 well I know Carlos Marcello the New 1319 00:58:53,370 --> 00:58:50,290 Orleans mafia boss he had the hate song 1320 00:58:55,950 --> 00:58:53,380 for the Kennedys too because oh they're 1321 00:58:58,590 --> 00:58:55,960 good I mean and by the way I talked to 1322 00:59:01,350 --> 00:58:58,600 Carlos his granddaughter and they were 1323 00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:01,360 being very rude to her and everything 1324 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:03,550 but we became friends and she told me 1325 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:06,010 and it was very very interesting she 1326 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:07,510 said you know of course she has her 1327 00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:08,890 viewpoint you know that Carlos Marcello 1328 00:59:13,110 --> 00:59:11,200 had every right her grandpa did because 1329 00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:13,120 he was being picked on by the Kennedys 1330 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:15,910 you know but it is remarkable just know 1331 00:59:21,180 --> 00:59:18,490 that Bobby Kennedy everybody knows that 1332 00:59:22,770 --> 00:59:21,190 when Carlos went to because he was on 1333 00:59:25,350 --> 00:59:22,780 parole he had to stay in Jefferson 1334 00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:25,360 Parish all the time we saw him he wasn't 1335 00:59:29,850 --> 00:59:27,070 in New Orleans Parish because he brought 1336 00:59:31,230 --> 00:59:29,860 his lawyers along and his brothers he's 1337 00:59:33,150 --> 00:59:31,240 always dressed in a suit and he was 1338 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:33,160 saying yes I'm here for a funeral I'm 1339 00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:35,050 here for a wedding so he got to go 1340 00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:36,640 wherever yes 1341 00:59:41,550 --> 00:59:39,520 well here is the Jeff parish and he goes 1342 00:59:46,290 --> 00:59:41,560 to the parole officer is Bobby Kennedy 1343 00:59:49,950 --> 00:59:46,300 arrest him and sends him Thanksgiving 1344 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:49,960 sends him all the way to the Honduras 1345 00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:51,610 well actually 1346 00:59:56,910 --> 00:59:53,800 to Guatemala because he was saying he 1347 01:00:01,530 --> 00:59:56,920 was born and what a mala for the tunisia 1348 01:00:03,390 --> 01:00:01,540 which is close to sicily okay so they 1349 01:00:05,130 --> 01:00:03,400 arrest you they put it on a plane they 1350 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:05,140 dumped him in guatemala where he's taken 1351 01:00:09,690 --> 01:00:07,210 very good care of because it Guatemalan 1352 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:09,700 president there owes Carlos Marcello a 1353 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:12,730 lot for a different reasons yes they 1354 01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:14,170 have a lot they have a good thing going 1355 01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:17,440 so Bobby Kennedy think he has feds come 1356 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:19,150 back they pick him up and they drop him 1357 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:21,130 in a Honduras in the jungle along with 1358 01:00:27,450 --> 01:00:24,730 his fat attorney friend Carlos my break 1359 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:27,460 some ribs and his ankle he is thrown 1360 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:29,650 down it looks like they were gonna he's 1361 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:31,330 gonna die but they make it to a little 1362 01:00:35,790 --> 01:00:34,330 airport and because in the Honduras 1363 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:35,800 there's didn't make it to the capital 1364 01:00:40,890 --> 01:00:38,170 they have money with them and they get 1365 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:40,900 himself all the way back to the United 1366 01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:43,570 States in near Miami and a swamp 1367 01:00:47,370 --> 01:00:45,280 but the people are too afraid to drop 1368 01:00:51,390 --> 01:00:47,380 him off David Ferrie picked him up from 1369 01:00:53,490 --> 01:00:51,400 there and and actually brought Marcello 1370 01:00:55,770 --> 01:00:53,500 back to Texas where he was bragging I'm 1371 01:00:56,610 --> 01:00:55,780 back in the United States soon he's 1372 01:00:59,310 --> 01:00:56,620 right back 1373 01:01:02,790 --> 01:00:59,320 in Louisiana and he makes it when he's 1374 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:02,800 goes to trial for deceit for faking that 1375 01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:05,290 he was born in Guatemala he sets it up 1376 01:01:09,630 --> 01:01:07,510 he has so much power that he is told 1377 01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:09,640 that he is a free man and that he wins 1378 01:01:15,390 --> 01:01:12,480 against Bobby Kennedy the same day 1379 01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:15,400 Kennedy's brother is shot in Dallas same 1380 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:23,440 day that's how much power yet now with 1381 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:26,730 the release of all of these new file 1382 01:01:33,630 --> 01:01:30,490 what not what were you most hoping to 1383 01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:33,640 find when these were released well 1384 01:01:38,010 --> 01:01:35,470 here's the thing they said that these 1385 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:38,020 were going to be unredacted all of them 1386 01:01:43,590 --> 01:01:39,930 they still have they're all blocked out 1387 01:01:45,810 --> 01:01:43,600 only a few original files have made it 1388 01:01:47,940 --> 01:01:45,820 through even they have redactions what 1389 01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:47,950 really got to me is the HSC a the house 1390 01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:49,150 special you know Committee on 1391 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:51,550 assassinations very important their 1392 01:01:55,620 --> 01:01:53,290 files were not supposed to released for 1393 01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:55,630 75 years well you know what we're 1394 01:01:59,010 --> 01:01:57,790 supposed to have all released now I look 1395 01:02:01,110 --> 01:01:59,020 at them and they've been covered with 1396 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:01,120 fresh white sheets of paper you can't 1397 01:02:07,270 --> 01:02:05,090 read a thing on them sixty some pages 1398 01:02:10,750 --> 01:02:07,280 and and that lodge has considered a 1399 01:02:14,260 --> 01:02:10,760 release of information huh yeah that's 1400 01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:14,270 always copies many copies of rewritten 1401 01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:16,640 material every once in a while a file 1402 01:02:21,370 --> 01:02:18,110 original file comes through and you see 1403 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:21,380 they have rewritten it and disseminate 1404 01:02:25,210 --> 01:02:23,330 it one of the ways you can tell when an 1405 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:25,220 original file is involved and have all 1406 01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:27,290 kinds of sign offs on it but when they 1407 01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:28,910 make these fakes they don't have very 1408 01:02:32,890 --> 01:02:30,710 many signatures because one who's going 1409 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:32,900 to keep hiding these things that's one 1410 01:02:36,730 --> 01:02:34,370 way you can tell which is an original 1411 01:02:39,550 --> 01:02:36,740 and which is a fake and it got a lot of 1412 01:02:41,230 --> 01:02:39,560 fakes out there it's ridiculous I don't 1413 01:02:45,580 --> 01:02:41,240 know honey but we're just about priming 1414 01:02:58,350 --> 01:02:45,590 our last break but I'm sure these files 1415 01:03:02,080 --> 01:02:59,610 [Music] 1416 01:03:03,610 --> 01:03:02,090 being back with Judith and boy she's an 1417 01:03:06,070 --> 01:03:03,620 accomplished lady and in so many 1418 01:03:08,290 --> 01:03:06,080 different ways but what we were talking 1419 01:03:10,540 --> 01:03:08,300 during the break about how they've the 1420 01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:10,550 copies that they have released or kind 1421 01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:13,520 of deteriorated fashion where that's a 1422 01:03:17,650 --> 01:03:15,680 copy of a copy of a copy of a copy and 1423 01:03:19,630 --> 01:03:17,660 and they're not in sequential order that 1424 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:19,640 could be studied and it sounds like 1425 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:20,930 they've done everything they can do to 1426 01:03:28,180 --> 01:03:22,610 undermine anybody really researching 1427 01:03:30,460 --> 01:03:28,190 these really you can't find three and 1428 01:03:33,130 --> 01:03:30,470 then you have like one of the files 1429 01:03:35,350 --> 01:03:33,140 releases they're asking the former CIA 1430 01:03:37,450 --> 01:03:35,360 director Richard Helms are saying to him 1431 01:03:41,260 --> 01:03:37,460 their assistant director they're saying 1432 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:41,270 to him okay tell us if Lee Harvey Oswald 1433 01:03:45,070 --> 01:03:42,770 worked for the CIA 1434 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:45,080 so this is a three page document page 1435 01:03:50,020 --> 01:03:48,770 three is missing that's that's all right 1436 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:50,030 that sounds about right 1437 01:03:57,070 --> 01:03:54,650 well I don't know I guess well good lord 1438 01:03:58,930 --> 01:03:57,080 is put as pathetic as the condition 1439 01:04:00,220 --> 01:03:58,940 these documents are in and redacted and 1440 01:04:02,290 --> 01:04:00,230 everything else what the heck could 1441 01:04:03,820 --> 01:04:02,300 Trump have been withholding I mean it 1442 01:04:07,450 --> 01:04:03,830 sounds like there is what he got a 1443 01:04:09,670 --> 01:04:07,460 hodgepodge this man's under pressure a 1444 01:04:11,860 --> 01:04:09,680 tremendous pressure any way that he's 1445 01:04:15,310 --> 01:04:11,870 colluded with the Russians and so on if 1446 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:15,320 he makes it look like yeah if he looked 1447 01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:18,170 if he pushes this - if I remember I did 1448 01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:18,910 know 1449 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:21,760 that mr. Cruz Rafael Cruz was helping 1450 01:04:25,980 --> 01:04:23,530 Lee Oswald too 1451 01:04:29,010 --> 01:04:25,990 he was protecting him actually he never 1452 01:04:32,460 --> 01:04:29,020 distributed them flyers there at the 1453 01:04:34,710 --> 01:04:32,470 Trade Mart their photographs of that Lee 1454 01:04:37,830 --> 01:04:34,720 said I'm protected because originally 1455 01:04:39,870 --> 01:04:37,840 Lee was they almost beat up and a big 1456 01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:39,880 crowd gathered it's in my book of course 1457 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:42,640 me and Lee and I was terrified for him I 1458 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:45,130 said Lee he said no don't worry they're 1459 01:04:48,210 --> 01:04:46,570 moving me to a different place where 1460 01:04:50,070 --> 01:04:48,220 there won't be as many people we can 1461 01:04:51,780 --> 01:04:50,080 still find out if anybody takes the 1462 01:04:54,420 --> 01:04:51,790 Flyers because they watched those who 1463 01:04:56,550 --> 01:04:54,430 did follow them if they responded 1464 01:04:57,330 --> 01:04:56,560 because this fair play for Cuba 1465 01:04:59,490 --> 01:04:57,340 committee 1466 01:05:01,980 --> 01:04:59,500 it said lectures and meetings they never 1467 01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:01,990 held a single lecture never held a 1468 01:05:06,390 --> 01:05:04,870 single meeting it was all fake anybody 1469 01:05:09,450 --> 01:05:06,400 who actually contacted them they 1470 01:05:12,270 --> 01:05:09,460 investigated them they sent back several 1471 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:12,280 spice that Cuba you know Castro had sent 1472 01:05:16,170 --> 01:05:14,170 me in because Castro doesn't want to die 1473 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:16,180 and we had all kinds of stuff going on 1474 01:05:22,260 --> 01:05:18,850 in New Orleans so Lee is there to 1475 01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:22,270 protect us and he is now at the Trade 1476 01:05:26,190 --> 01:05:24,400 Mart and he said I've got an archangel 1477 01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:26,200 he said I've gotten an angel I said who 1478 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:28,480 is he said Raphael oh of course Raphael 1479 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:30,730 the Archangel is known and you know in 1480 01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:33,370 history as the great protecting angel 1481 01:05:37,860 --> 01:05:36,400 and he said I'd like you to take a look 1482 01:05:38,970 --> 01:05:37,870 at him he said don't say anything to him 1483 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:38,980 because we're not supposed to know each 1484 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:41,650 other in public so I walk up there and I 1485 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:44,530 told people people I did not know his 1486 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:47,050 last name I only knew Raphael so when 1487 01:05:52,020 --> 01:05:49,930 people ask me finally who is this man 1488 01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:52,030 well if only people had asked me before 1489 01:05:56,730 --> 01:05:54,820 I said well it was Rafael Cruz because 1490 01:05:58,110 --> 01:05:56,740 if by then I found his into the 1491 01:06:00,060 --> 01:05:58,120 information on the Internet 1492 01:06:02,430 --> 01:06:00,070 I saw his face it was the same man 1493 01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:02,440 remember I've taken courses in forensic 1494 01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:04,960 anthropology I can take a skull and put 1495 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:08,140 the face on it so I know that this is 1496 01:06:13,980 --> 01:06:10,690 the same man and I saw him with my own 1497 01:06:15,810 --> 01:06:13,990 eyes twice all right working with Lee or 1498 01:06:18,150 --> 01:06:15,820 associated with him Lee telling me there 1499 01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:18,160 he goes crossing across going over to 1500 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:20,590 banisters office guy Bannister was in 1501 01:06:24,510 --> 01:06:22,210 charge of all the ehtekaf stuff stuff in 1502 01:06:26,540 --> 01:06:24,520 the area and working with Bobby Kennedy 1503 01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:26,550 on the side and with Carlos Marcello 1504 01:06:32,170 --> 01:06:30,790 it's all a big mess in New Orleans well 1505 01:06:36,069 --> 01:06:32,180 but I'll bet 1506 01:06:40,020 --> 01:06:36,079 I could this is what it says it's crazy 1507 01:06:43,059 --> 01:06:40,030 how right after all of this went down 1508 01:06:45,059 --> 01:06:43,069 when I interviewed you in gym you said 1509 01:06:47,740 --> 01:06:45,069 that you were essentially exiled from 1510 01:06:49,569 --> 01:06:47,750 the country oh yeah I have to live 1511 01:06:51,790 --> 01:06:49,579 overseas and just recently I was 1512 01:06:53,859 --> 01:06:51,800 actually arrested in Zurich they find 1513 01:06:57,010 --> 01:06:53,869 every excuse they can I had to have an 1514 01:06:59,260 --> 01:06:57,020 emergency eye operation 125 people gave 1515 01:07:01,569 --> 01:06:59,270 donations as they say I don't keep any 1516 01:07:02,500 --> 01:07:01,579 money for myself and so I had look very 1517 01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:02,510 portly really 1518 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:04,550 but God takes care of that you know the 1519 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:07,010 knees yeah and people do help me but 1520 01:07:11,530 --> 01:07:09,530 here's what happened emergency eye 1521 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:11,540 operation I had to be flat on my back 1522 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:13,490 after the operation to save my left eye 1523 01:07:17,620 --> 01:07:15,770 they operate to actually have both eyes 1524 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:17,630 and they were very proud they took 1525 01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:19,450 photographs I had all the information 1526 01:07:24,490 --> 01:07:22,160 can't leave it is supposed to leave 1527 01:07:26,890 --> 01:07:24,500 every 90 days for 10 years now I've been 1528 01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:26,900 leaving EU and going elsewhere usually 1529 01:07:30,549 --> 01:07:28,910 to like Macedonia or something like that 1530 01:07:33,309 --> 01:07:30,559 for three months and then going back 1531 01:07:35,559 --> 01:07:33,319 I've lived like that I had am a woman 1532 01:07:38,260 --> 01:07:35,569 without a country but here I am flat on 1533 01:07:40,089 --> 01:07:38,270 my back I can't leave I'm 17 days over 1534 01:07:42,370 --> 01:07:40,099 the limit the doctors write everything 1535 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:42,380 up for me and they show it you know show 1536 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:44,210 that to them that you can't fly because 1537 01:07:49,329 --> 01:07:46,130 the pressure in your left eyes was so 1538 01:07:52,329 --> 01:07:49,339 high that my eye would have exploded on 1539 01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:52,339 a plane oh no I'm not gonna let that 1540 01:07:55,660 --> 01:07:53,089 happen 1541 01:07:58,359 --> 01:07:55,670 all right so I go to Zurich I show them 1542 01:08:00,910 --> 01:07:58,369 they think they arrested me anyway then 1543 01:08:03,130 --> 01:08:00,920 well I had to wait a month I had to wait 1544 01:08:04,660 --> 01:08:03,140 that was September 29 I had to wait a 1545 01:08:07,299 --> 01:08:04,670 whole month before I could actually get 1546 01:08:09,370 --> 01:08:07,309 anything done because they finally 1547 01:08:11,980 --> 01:08:09,380 decided they said well we find that 1548 01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:11,990 you're not guilty how about that you 1549 01:08:19,689 --> 01:08:17,839 know I couldn't sue them I couldn't get 1550 01:08:22,900 --> 01:08:19,699 anything back they confiscated stuff 1551 01:08:24,610 --> 01:08:22,910 with mine and everything okay so they 1552 01:08:26,769 --> 01:08:24,620 can they still ticket you know they will 1553 01:08:30,519 --> 01:08:26,779 if they can we're talking about this 1554 01:08:32,349 --> 01:08:30,529 world how are you a threat to anything 1555 01:08:34,059 --> 01:08:32,359 though it's for you to have been exiled 1556 01:08:39,669 --> 01:08:34,069 the way that you were and what was their 1557 01:08:41,979 --> 01:08:39,679 reasoning well I I kept myself very 1558 01:08:44,919 --> 01:08:41,989 quiet and in fact I joined the Mormon 1559 01:08:45,740 --> 01:08:44,929 Church for 17 years I was just sister 1560 01:08:47,420 --> 01:08:45,750 Baker so I 1561 01:08:49,660 --> 01:08:47,430 my first name wasn't getting out there 1562 01:08:53,329 --> 01:08:49,670 and I tried to go on with my life and 1563 01:08:55,220 --> 01:08:53,339 when my last child left home and went on 1564 01:08:58,130 --> 01:08:55,230 a honeymoon I finally took out the film 1565 01:08:59,480 --> 01:08:58,140 JFK I was horrified that with all the 1566 01:09:01,760 --> 01:08:59,490 evidence out there like the Zapruder 1567 01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:01,770 film showing Kennedy's head going back 1568 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:04,560 into the left that they still said that 1569 01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:06,930 Lee did it to me I couldn't believe it 1570 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:10,799 and I felt oh yeah I felt so guilty and 1571 01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:12,930 I loved him he was done the same for me 1572 01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:15,870 yeah I have to speak out and you know 1573 01:09:20,329 --> 01:09:18,839 what going on 75 okay let's kill me I 1574 01:09:23,900 --> 01:09:20,339 don't care anymore because I'm gonna die 1575 01:09:25,309 --> 01:09:23,910 of something you know my dad always says 1576 01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:25,319 that you're not going to get out of this 1577 01:09:35,450 --> 01:09:32,880 life of lives the Scarlet Pimpernel he's 1578 01:09:37,700 --> 01:09:35,460 talking to his enemy and the enemy's 1579 01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:37,710 wants to shoot him he says well all I 1580 01:09:43,550 --> 01:09:40,560 have to do he says is you know set this 1581 01:09:45,260 --> 01:09:43,560 powder keg on a flame he said I know 1582 01:09:47,210 --> 01:09:45,270 where I'm going and I know where you're 1583 01:09:49,190 --> 01:09:47,220 going so these people they're going to 1584 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:49,200 end up in a place that their moccasins 1585 01:09:56,060 --> 01:09:53,970 are headed the wrong direction well 1586 01:09:58,010 --> 01:09:56,070 Judith let's mention this book again the 1587 01:10:00,980 --> 01:09:58,020 book again and it's it's available what 1588 01:10:02,690 --> 01:10:00,990 at Amazon yes 1589 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:02,700 Kennedy the [\h__\h] the big picture we 1590 01:10:07,250 --> 01:10:04,290 put it all together so you can see all 1591 01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:07,260 the background of how Kennedy was all 1592 01:10:11,390 --> 01:10:08,880 these people were amassed against 1593 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:11,400 Kennedy and we're also according from 1594 01:10:14,150 --> 01:10:13,050 the best books and from some of these 1595 01:10:17,480 --> 01:10:14,160 release files 1596 01:10:19,310 --> 01:10:17,490 on top of that again Kennedy that book 1597 01:10:21,050 --> 01:10:19,320 me and Lee and of course David Ferrie 1598 01:10:24,170 --> 01:10:21,060 mafia pilot but the book me and Lee is 1599 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:24,180 really researched because of the things 1600 01:10:27,950 --> 01:10:25,770 I've said in there like the Venezuela 1601 01:10:30,770 --> 01:10:27,960 Caracas shipment when they said no 1602 01:10:33,140 --> 01:10:30,780 shipments are going on in 63 anyway lots 1603 01:10:36,650 --> 01:10:33,150 of stuff is also in that book and if 1604 01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:36,660 people go to JFK Dallas conference calm 1605 01:10:42,170 --> 01:10:40,080 and that would be November 17 1819 right 1606 01:10:43,790 --> 01:10:42,180 around the corner the last of the living 1607 01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:43,800 witnesses we've got them together and 1608 01:10:48,170 --> 01:10:45,840 we've got the last of the best for Jim 1609 01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:48,180 is not with us Jim died this much here 1610 01:10:53,420 --> 01:10:51,360 you know so I hope they come and hear 1611 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:53,430 history because we're we're not gonna be 1612 01:10:57,530 --> 01:10:53,970 here forever 1613 01:10:59,480 --> 01:10:57,540 we might not even be here next year well 1614 01:11:02,510 --> 01:10:59,490 I hope everybody can the can 1615 01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:02,520 we'll go and I certainly hope the book 1616 01:11:05,450 --> 01:11:04,080 sells well do you have your own website 1617 01:11:08,150 --> 01:11:05,460 you sell it through or just through 1618 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:08,160 Amazon you faker I do it on Facebook 1619 01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:09,810 because when I get blocked or attacked 1620 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:11,520 on Facebook everybody can see it you 1621 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:14,610 know oh they can see what I'm up against 1622 01:11:18,740 --> 01:11:16,770 and it's and they see that I love people 1623 01:11:21,050 --> 01:11:18,750 I want people to be happy I wanted to 1624 01:11:23,380 --> 01:11:21,060 cure cancer and I'm able to help people 1625 01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:23,390 there a lot of people who are suffering 1626 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:25,800 we've been able to help them and of 1627 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:27,090 course I always say you have to go in to 1628 01:11:31,940 --> 01:11:28,530 consult with your doctor so I don't get 1629 01:11:34,250 --> 01:11:31,950 myself arrested but uh fact matter is 1630 01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:34,260 there are many ways to deal with cancer 1631 01:11:38,990 --> 01:11:36,510 and to avoid cancer I like to mention 1632 01:11:41,900 --> 01:11:39,000 alpha lipoic acid trans is ferret raw 1633 01:11:45,230 --> 01:11:41,910 and niacin as good examples of what you 1634 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:45,240 can use to avoid developing a petty case 1635 01:11:54,230 --> 01:11:50,850 of cancer I gotta write that down ey th 1636 01:11:55,820 --> 01:11:54,240 Baker and and also I'm writing sick 1637 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:55,830 what's called the anti-cancer cookbook 1638 01:12:00,830 --> 01:11:57,290 that's going to be coming out next year 1639 01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:00,840 people need to truth about how they 1640 01:12:05,690 --> 01:12:03,510 avoid cancer oh that's awesome 1641 01:12:10,970 --> 01:12:05,700 hopefully I hope you found that taking 1642 01:12:12,980 --> 01:12:10,980 bourbon will help you thank you for 1643 01:12:15,650 --> 01:12:12,990 being so decent because the last person 1644 01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:15,660 I talked to he's another nice man but he 1645 01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:18,000 said I mentioned the supporter film 1646 01:12:22,250 --> 01:12:19,920 where you see Kennedy's head going back 1647 01:12:24,110 --> 01:12:22,260 to the left I said mrs. Lee I was what 1648 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:24,120 was situated behind him how do you think 1649 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:26,370 that happened and he said all you people 1650 01:12:29,570 --> 01:12:27,810 because he knows people don't know what 1651 01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:29,580 this approver film is anymore the new 1652 01:12:35,330 --> 01:12:32,310 generation anybody believes that the 1653 01:12:40,010 --> 01:12:35,340 Zapruder film shows something like that 1654 01:12:42,170 --> 01:12:40,020 they're lunatics that's what people want 1655 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:42,180 to believe if the official version I 1656 01:12:45,710 --> 01:12:44,610 think they just they don't want to you 1657 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:45,720 know it's like the old wizard of oz 1658 01:12:50,150 --> 01:12:47,250 don't look what spot their religion or 1659 01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:50,160 something yeah oh you have to do is 1660 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:53,040 people listening I ask you one thing 1661 01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:55,170 because this wasn't never a question was 1662 01:12:59,870 --> 01:12:57,930 used to be raised when I was a kid do 1663 01:13:01,580 --> 01:12:59,880 you trust your government do you trust 1664 01:13:02,810 --> 01:13:01,590 everything they say and if you do I have 1665 01:13:07,730 --> 01:13:02,820 a bridge to sell to you 1666 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:07,740 oh well Judith it's been a great 1667 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:10,170 pleasure and I hope to hear from you 1668 01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:11,850 again sometime yeah it was great to have 1669 01:13:17,399 --> 01:13:12,129 you 1670 01:13:19,229 --> 01:13:17,409 know I talk too fast I tried to get a 1671 01:13:21,209 --> 01:13:19,239 lot of information in because God knows 1672 01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:21,219 you know that's why we let it go back 1673 01:13:25,229 --> 01:13:23,679 with it because it was so fantastic it 1674 01:13:27,259 --> 01:13:25,239 was oh it was excellent excellent 1675 01:13:29,969 --> 01:13:27,269 excellent excellent 1676 01:13:36,389 --> 01:13:29,979 well said you are late we'll send you a 1677 01:13:38,939 --> 01:13:36,399 link to the show have a good night you 1678 01:13:40,349 --> 01:13:38,949 have yeah that's that's what I asked you 1679 01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:40,359 know you don't have to spend money pray 1680 01:13:50,270 --> 01:13:45,249 for me Billy okay kill you have a good 1681 01:13:55,919 --> 01:13:50,280 good night Heidi now Heidi next week 1682 01:13:59,729 --> 01:13:55,929 things are in somewhat disarray well not 1683 01:14:03,179 --> 01:13:59,739 bad not bad it's not that bad but we 1684 01:14:05,729 --> 01:14:03,189 have to formulate our plants the see I 1685 01:14:08,669 --> 01:14:05,739 did while you were absent 1686 01:14:11,069 --> 01:14:08,679 I interviewed Pam Geller and we're gonna 1687 01:14:13,979 --> 01:14:11,079 run that in half first half of next show 1688 01:14:20,580 --> 01:14:13,989 and then come on in the second half but 1689 01:14:24,209 --> 01:14:20,590 that's not that bad no and now Joe is 1690 01:14:25,589 --> 01:14:24,219 going out of town on the 21st also we're 1691 01:14:27,719 --> 01:14:25,599 gonna have to run to reap these probably 1692 01:14:30,020 --> 01:14:27,729 going to Europe or Switzerland to ski or 1693 01:14:32,639 --> 01:14:30,030 whatever 1694 01:14:34,649 --> 01:14:32,649 we'll just that's just the way it goes 1695 01:14:36,839 --> 01:14:34,659 with a rich but anyhow we'd better say